Anyone Else Considering an Automatic FR-S? - Page 19 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tranzformer · 12-08-2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01

i've been on some steep hills with my manual s2k and it never bothered me. had no need of burning the clutch, you just gotta get used to it.

The handbrake is your friend in these situations.

zoomzoomers · 12-08-2011, 02:40 PM

Other than an E46 M3 with a SMG transmission I've never owned an auto sports car, but living in LA where commuting to work (9 miles) takes me anywhere from an hour to and hour and a half. I'm beginning to consider my options.

So initally a 6MT for me, but I'll leave my final decision until I get to drive both. And for those of you who state that if you don't choose a manual you're not a purist. Please get off your high horse. I mean really. Who are you, or anyone for that matter, to lay judgement on others. If you're merely stating your opinion, I understand, but to make blanket statements like that shows little class. I can see it now... there are people out there already saying that FRS/BRZ isn't a real sports car because a Camry will outrun it 0 - 60 and the 1/4 mile.

SUB-FT86 · 12-08-2011, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

Other than an E46 M3 with a SMG transmission I've never owned an auto sports car, but living in LA where commuting to work (9 miles) takes me anywhere from an hour to and hour and a half. I'm beginning to consider my options.

So initally a 6MT for me, but I'll leave my final decision until I get to drive both. And for those of you who state that if you don't choose a manual you're not a purist. Please get off your high horse. I mean really. Who are you, or anyone for that matter, to lay judgement on others. If you're merely stating your opinion, I understand, but to make blanket statements like that shows little class. I can see it now... there are people out there already saying that FRS/BRZ isn't a real sports car because a Camry will outrun it 0 - 60 and the 1/4 mile.

Well said!!!

Jordo! · 12-08-2011, 08:37 PM

Let this argument die already...

Orthodoxy views on sports cars cars (ignoring nearly all super cars and all F1 cars, BTW) aside:

(1) all sports cars will have some sort of auto (DSG, or whatever) within, oh, 15 or so years -- your grandkids will have no idea why people ranted and raved over the joys of operating three pedals and a lever just to get anywhere -- it will be like reminiscing over a horse and buggy...),

and

(2) in less than 25 years they'll probably all have electric motors that make peak torque at 1 RPM and only have 1 or 2 speeds to deal with.

That is all.

LSxJunkie · 12-08-2011, 11:06 PM

Stick. Slower but more fun for me. I drove an IS-F around a track. It was fun, but I'd still rather have a third pedal.

ahausheer · 12-09-2011, 12:54 AM

Ill bet the auto is faster.

Mr.Jay · 12-09-2011, 01:29 AM

faster does not always equal more fun control is nice

No reason to get worked up over it cause no one on the internet can force you to do anything. remember this one kid XD

Tho I do find stick wayy more fun and I've driven some high tech autos

Jordo! · 12-09-2011, 01:37 AM

You know what else is fun. Tuning a carburetor. Old tech and on it's way out. That's just the way it is.

Sport-Tech · 12-09-2011, 02:51 AM

Manual here. Just wish they had gone for the great auto rev-matching feature introduced in the 370Z.

trifenix · 12-09-2011, 02:56 AM

This thread is hilarious...people saying manuals are easier to drive in traffic than autos. Seriously trolling. Cmon people, using two feet vs using one...which is more effort? But as someone stated previously, beating a dead horse because there are hardcore manual purists in the world. My left leg has gotten numb sitting in traffic on the way to vegas so +1 for a manual driver who does not prefer to drive a stick in traffic. My friend had to actually stop because he got tired of revving to 2k because he has 6lb. flywheel and 6 puck clutch pushing 400whp as DD lol. Right now I am trying to see whether i will dd this car in LA or just redline it all day like I do to my gsr.

We shall see how mr. tada's auto manual transmission fares....

CXTKRS1 · 12-09-2011, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daphaze1

Well I used to love the Yamaha R1. First gear to 90mph =D. I'd still stick to automatic due to injury but wouldn't it be wonderful of Yamaha brought that over to the cars? =D

You will never see gear ratios like short of an exotic.

zoomzoomers · 12-09-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Manual here. Just wish they had gone for the great auto rev-matching feature introduced in the 370Z.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the auto on the FRS/BRZ did rev match on downshifts. At least that's what I remember reading somewhere. Of course, I could be wrong as I've sorted through a lot of info (most speculation) about these cars. Can anyone confirm?

Mari0 · 12-09-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the auto on the FRS/BRZ did rev match on downshifts. At least that's what I remember reading somewhere. Of course, I could be wrong as I've sorted through a lot of info (most speculation) about these cars. Can anyone confirm?

He was talking about the 370z's rev match for the MANUAL transmission

zoomzoomers · 12-09-2011, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari0

He was talking about the 370z's rev match for the MANUAL transmission

Ahh I see. The syncro rev match function.

12-09-2011, 12:54 AM	#258
ahausheer Re-member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota camry Location: S. Cali Posts: 1,001 Thanks: 98 Thanked 292 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ill bet the auto is faster. __________________ Nothing decays like progress, and nothing preserves like neglect.

12-09-2011, 01:29 AM	#259
Mr.Jay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: FRS :D Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 545 Thanked 699 Times in 438 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	faster does not always equal more fun control is nice No reason to get worked up over it cause no one on the internet can force you to do anything. remember this one kid XD Tho I do find stick wayy more fun and I've driven some high tech autos __________________ Out of the FRS game

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Jordo! Enjoy it, destroy it. Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Datsun Racing Hen Location: Blank Generation Posts: 820 Thanks: 6 Thanked 61 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Let this argument die already... Orthodoxy views on sports cars cars (ignoring nearly all super cars and all F1 cars, BTW) aside: (1) all sports cars will have some sort of auto (DSG, or whatever) within, oh, 15 or so years -- your grandkids will have no idea why people ranted and raved over the joys of operating three pedals and a lever just to get anywhere -- it will be like reminiscing over a horse and buggy...), and (2) in less than 25 years they'll probably all have electric motors that make peak torque at 1 RPM and only have 1 or 2 speeds to deal with. That is all.

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LSxJunkie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Car Location: Here Posts: 326 Thanks: 283 Thanked 403 Times in 214 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Stick. Slower but more fun for me. I drove an IS-F around a track. It was fun, but I'd still rather have a third pedal.

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Jordo! Enjoy it, destroy it. Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Datsun Racing Hen Location: Blank Generation Posts: 820 Thanks: 6 Thanked 61 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	You know what else is fun. Tuning a carburetor. Old tech and on it's way out. That's just the way it is.

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Sport-Tech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Drives: TBD Location: Toronto Posts: 2,583 Thanks: 665 Thanked 685 Times in 386 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Manual here. Just wish they had gone for the great auto rev-matching feature introduced in the 370Z.

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trifenix Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: Toyota Tacoma Location: LA Posts: 67 Thanks: 31 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This thread is hilarious...people saying manuals are easier to drive in traffic than autos. Seriously trolling. Cmon people, using two feet vs using one...which is more effort? But as someone stated previously, beating a dead horse because there are hardcore manual purists in the world. My left leg has gotten numb sitting in traffic on the way to vegas so +1 for a manual driver who does not prefer to drive a stick in traffic. My friend had to actually stop because he got tired of revving to 2k because he has 6lb. flywheel and 6 puck clutch pushing 400whp as DD lol. Right now I am trying to see whether i will dd this car in LA or just redline it all day like I do to my gsr. We shall see how mr. tada's auto manual transmission fares....

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