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Old 05-17-2013, 11:03 AM   #141
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You are not happy with the official one used by Cusco?
You can't read the supercharger specs?
Robi is already doing the best he can with the non disclosure in place in America.

Until the production unit has shipped to customers, you won't get any independent pretty graphs.

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Sounds great, but since you can't release a dyno chart or really say much, you are going to just work everyone up for another disappointment.

Before Visconti derailed off this project he came in and said pretty much the same stuff and how "impressed" he was, and then it went silent.

Not to be a downer, I for one am very excited for this kit to finally come to light, but just being brutally honest.
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Don't think this is a repost because its from Cusco's Facebook page this morning. If it is I will delete... Anyway:

News from Cusco:

http://www.cusco.co.jp/products/etc-...86_brz_11.html

Now, this is good news because if Cusco is selling a kit, we know it will work... I haven't read through a lot of the translation (following) so I don't know much yet and won't until I get to work. I'm rushing right now to post this since I was kind of excited lol.

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I get a linear acceleration in margin, such as 3-liter engine
Taking advantage as it is a ride and sporty high response by (Haikonpu) high compression ratio of FA20 is the base engine, NA large displacement engine Cusco supercharger kit of 86 / Subaru BRZ only Toyota, as in (3 liter NA equivalent) it was developed to aim and power is clear that, to run full torque.
You turn on the know-how of Cusco based high performance supercharger SPRINTEX manufactured by (※), both the ease of installation and improve the reliability of parts by a full bolt-on kit that does not require processing on the vehicle side.
The supercharging system with less heat generation, (tax ¥ 398,000) have also established intercooler kit less reasonable.

● characteristics it is easy to treat with full torque, such as 3 liter NA engine
● adopt a twin-screw system of the best efficiency in the supercharger
● Set the two types of intercooler kit and less water-cooled intercooler Kit with
● complete bolt-on kit that requires no processing
※ The kit has adopted the highest efficiency supercharger unit SPRINTEX of (database Printex) Co., Ltd..

Power >>> check data

I have changed the engine characteristics very easy to handle maximum torque generation rotational speed also falling output is improved by more than 30% across compared to normal vehicle, the Valley of the torque in the normal is improved.

☆ Reference Power check data

◆ Cuzco supercharger (intercooler with kit) vehicles equipped with measured values
132.4% 208PS/7400rpm · · · normal ratio: maximum output
143.0% 24.6kg · m/5600rpm · · · Normal ratio: maximum torque
◆ normal car engine measured value
Maximum output: 157PS/6700rpm
Maximum torque: 17.2kg · m/6200rpm
※ It becomes the value is less than the manufacturer catalog value due to measurement conditions.

◆ Cusco · 86 & BRZ only supercharger kit
(ZC6) both MT vehicles only (ZN6), Subaru BRZ compatible model Toyota 86
Cusco supercharger kit product code name price without tax tax-included price JAN code
Water-cooled intercooler Kit with 965-720-A ¥ 498,000 ¥ 522,900 4996 3380 99389
Intercooler kit-less 965-720-B ¥ 398,000 ¥ 417,900 4996 3380 99396

(End of April delivery start and reservation receptionist)

◆ is (manual transmission) vehicles only the MT kit.
◆ (ECU) does not come with engine computer.
Please go MAP change of the ECU (such as fuel injection quantity and ignition timing) at and specialty shops always in this kit is installed. In addition, there are times when it is necessary to replace parts separately by tuning state of the vehicle.
(Please contact us consultation until Inc. Kyarosse or dealer in advance for more information)
◆ pressure sensor corresponding to the boost control is included with the product. (Replace the original pressure sensor)

[Cusco Super Charger Kit Kit Contents]
Supercharger body (intake manifold integrated)
Inlet pipe
Silicon band
Throttle body wiring extension
Air pressure sensor ASSY
Air pressure sensor wiring extension
· Idler pulley set
Drive for V-ribbed belt (6PK-2615)
Cap bolt M14 × P1.5 × 40
· Idler pulley bracket
Intake manifold ASSY flange O-ring
Throttle body ASSY O-ring for
Vacuum switching valve ASSY relocation bracket set
Bolt clip Ware

Following parts will be added in addition to the water-cooled intercooler Kit with] ... the component.

-Water-cooled intercooler for radiator (core body)
-Water-cooled intercooler for radiator mounting bracket set
-Water-cooled intercooler core body (S / C side)
-Electric water pump body
-Electric water pump for power harness
-Electric water pump mounting bracket set
Coolant reservoir tank
Coolant hose set
Hose clamp set
Bolt clip Ware
※ Please prepare separately below
Coolant (cooling water) ... an appropriate amount
Silicon sealant ... appropriate amount

>>> Characteristics of Cusco supercharger

I have a super charger ideal characteristics and has the benefits of many shown in the table below.

(Can't copy text from table - its an image)

>>> Set the rich option parts

Cusco, water-cooled engine oil cooler

Water-cooled engine oil cooler kit for high-efficiency performance maintain proper oil temperature of the engine oil. (MT vehicles only)
Temperature rise of the engine oil has a significant effect on engine performance. It is the item for which exhibits 100% original performance of the supercharger by performing a cooling efficiently. Processing only interruption of the adapter cut of genuine radiator hose Unlike the installation of a complicated air-cooled oil cooler by a simple system configuration.
It can be installed with or without a supercharger installed.

Product code option price without tax tax-included price
Cusco, water-cooled engine oil cooler kit 965-012-A ¥ 58,000 ¥ 60,900

I installed a heat exchanger to genuine oil filter unit. Please note the dimensions in order to ensure the clearance between the bonnet if you are using a block of sandwich for take out that Ri oil temperature and oil pressure. You may still be able to use it by the oil filter change exchange thin.


High boost driven pulley 75mm

It becomes high boost high-power rotational speed of supercharger than increased with the exchange to the pulley of 75mm to a high specification boost the 80mm pulley kit standard. (Usually up to 0.6bar ⇒ 0.7bar)
Tuning overall will be required in the case of this product installed. There needs to be replaced to something more powerful the engine related parts, including supply and exhaust and fuel delivery related, the ignition system.
Please attach in consultation with professional tuning shop menu overall in advance you will not be able to support, original specification.
Product code option price without tax tax-included price
High boost driven pulley 75mm 965-720-P75 ¥ 6,000 ¥ 6,300


Boost pressure rises as described above. Please replace it after applying the tuning required in advance.

Large capacity injectors and high capacity fuel pump

Set (apprentice Works) manufactured by high-capacity injectors and high capacity fuel pump DEATSCHWERKS. It was an option the fuel delivery related parts to be required in order to perform the tuning obtained a high power more.
Injector configuration (450cc/min, 700cc/min, 900cc/min) 3 types available depending on the tuning.
Fuel pump Set 265L / h that can ensure adequate fuel pressure.

Option (DEATSCHWERKS made ​​large capacity injector) Product code tax price including tax discharge rate (cc / min)
450cc/min 86 & BRZ dedicated injector set (four) 16U-02-0450-4 ¥ 43,000 ¥ 45,150 450
700cc/min 86 & BRZ dedicated injector set (four) 16U-02-0700-4 ¥ 43,000 ¥ 45,150 700
900cc/min 86 & BRZ dedicated injector set (four) 16U-02-0900-4 ¥ 56,000 ¥ 58,800 900

BRZ Injectors 800x434-300.jpg
Option (DEATSCHWERKS made ​​large capacity fuel pump) Product code tax price including tax discharge rate (L / h)
(Small processing required) 265L / h 86 & BRZ dedicated fuel pump kit 9-651-1010 ¥ 18,000 ¥ 18,900 265

Notes on mounting
This article is an important part on the engine. Please contact mounting on who understand that this product enough in advance when installed. In addition, please contact the Corporation Kyarosse or dealer in advance if you have any questions.
In addition, please contact a specialized shop Upon installation of this product. (Please prepare a maintenance manual of the manufacturer issue)

Reference installation time
In the maintenance shop with a special tool is a reference work time, it becomes the reference time when the mechanic with a knowledge of that was specialized work. The reference time is mixed according to the presence or absence of desorption parts by tuning status of attached to vehicle.
-Water-cooled intercooler with Kit ... approximately 5-6 hours
Intercooler kit less ... approximately 4-5 hours
It does not include the time, such as ECU resetting.

For maintenance

◆ V-ribbed belt
V-ribbed belt used to drive the supercharger body by the pulley is a consumable item.
Please also performed inspections on a regular basis make the exchange as follows for safety.
· Please perform the belt replacement in time of whichever of two years years of use or 50,000 km mileage.
Supercharged V-ribbed belt Part Number: 6PK-2615
※ It is commercially available. Please contact us so you can also available in Kyarosse Co., Ltd. or your local dealer.

◆ internal body oil
Lubrication oil of supercharger unit main body of this kit has become a self-filling internal circulation system.
This oil should be replaced on a regular basis lubricating oil is sealed in supercharger unit body separate from the engine oil of the engine body. (The specified amount of oil is filled in the product shipment)
- Please change to the recommended oil to 50,000 km per mileage.
Or equivalent recommended oil · · · Redline 75W/90NS high performance synthetic gear oil
Please use the specified amount of oil usage always · · · 157 (ml).
※ oil level inspection is possible by the oil level gauge.
※ It is commercially available. Please contact us so you can also available in Kyarosse Co., Ltd. or your local dealer.

◆ overhaul of supercharger unit body
It is checked for damage and wear inside the body, it will make an exchange, such as oil seal and bearing.
· Please go to 150,000 km per mileage.
※ Please ask to Kyarosse Co. for overhaul.

Other notes

· We will not be able to use are equipped with genuine "sound creator".
- It may be modified or removed the interference portion of the material sound insulation and thermal insulation of the back hood is required.
· There is the case that the oils and fats and genuine parts are required separately by the mounting situation.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:17 AM   #143
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WTF?! Complete bolt on kit requires no processing? This is making the claim that you don't need a new tune map?! That strikes me as wrong...
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:31 AM   #144
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I'm wondering how much of this is just a colossal fuck-up by Innovate? This is just speculation, but what if they secured exclusive distribution rights in North America of this unit and they're struggling to actually bring it to market for various reasons (tuning being one of them, apparently)?

This seems to be a new venture for them (i've used their sensor products for many years). I was personally surprised to see them getting involved with a forced induction kit.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:32 AM   #145
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No need to get so defensive. Perhaps I misinterpreted your intent when you posted that ridiculous picture and smart ass "unicorn" comment.

I'd call $3500 pretty reasonable for a complete bolt-on SC kit with tune.

Here's a possibly less well-known video clip of the Bullet/Sprintex/Innovate SC:

That's my video
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:43 AM   #146
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WTF?! Complete bolt on kit requires no processing? This is making the claim that you don't need a new tune map?! That strikes me as wrong...
Remember, google translate is not close to perfect. It works for to get an idea of what they are trying to say, but thats about it.
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I love google translate. It reminds me of old dubbed over martial arts movies. You read and read and then "WHAT?! Did he just say that?!"
Always a good time.
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WTF?! Complete bolt on kit requires no processing? This is making the claim that you don't need a new tune map?! That strikes me as wrong...
It doesn't make that claim at all.

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◆ is (manual transmission) vehicles only the MT kit.
◆ (ECU) does not come with engine computer.
Please go MAP change of the ECU (such as fuel injection quantity and ignition timing) at and specialty shops always in this kit is installed. In addition, there are times when it is necessary to replace parts separately by tuning state of the vehicle.
(Please contact us consultation until Inc. Kyarosse or dealer in advance for more information)
◆ pressure sensor corresponding to the boost control is included with the product. (Replace the original pressure sensor)
What I'm getting from that is that they give you a MAP sensor and you need to provide your own tuning? If that's the case, I retract my previous statement that it will work out of the box. Tuning was the issue at Innovate, so it might be here as well, OR Cusco gives you the right tools to get a tune, maybe all Innovate needed was a new MAP sensor, I doubt it, but maybe.
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Cliff notes more power everywhere this car is just p*ssed off now.
Large gains EVERYWHERE under the curve.
I love the magic of the E-85

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Here is a 10 minute eargasm for you. The Alfa is a Subaru boxer sibling. This one is supercharged, chewing on a supercar. The Alfas firing order is exactly like a scoob, but with a different crank. This vid sounds really good at top volume . I believe this is a good representation of what any of the blower kits for the BRZ could sound like.
Not going to lie, I would have pooped a little bit when the lead car locked up the left front tire
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E85 is

As I will never be running it. Would love to see a 91/92 octane tune dyno.
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Honestly, you only need the map sensor for logging.

You can run the tune off the maf on the low boost setup.... I think there are several vortech guys running around with the new wheel on maf tunes rather than speed density so you may even be able to run the high boost setup just on a maf tune.
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You are not happy with the official one used by Cusco?
You can't read the supercharger specs?
Robi is already doing the best he can with the non disclosure in place in America.

Until the production unit has shipped to customers, you won't get any independent pretty graphs.
How about you re-read my post. I didn't say anything about myself.

I'm not knocking Robi either, I appreciate what hes doing. But if you look at all the other threads that got locked, it went from "show me a dyno!", "Dyno chart coming" to "WTF no dyno charts?" and locked.
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There is a link to supercharger flyer on the Cusco website which shows some dyno charts for this kit...
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