New Turbo Kit Sneak Peek(Ptuning)

[Darryljr11]

I think MD just does OB2 readiness check for 1997 and newer cars.

[bdub85]

Originally Posted by Darryljr11

I think MD just does OB2 readiness check for 1997 and newer cars.

Correct. My catless Evo passed with flying colors. As long as you aren't throwing any CEL's or recently cleared the CEL's, you'll pass.

[Darryljr11]

Originally Posted by bdub85

Correct. My catless Evo passed with flying colors. As long as you aren't throwing any CEL's or recently cleared the CEL's, you'll pass.

Makes me wanna get uel headers but my exhaust is already too loud lol.

[brocktwalker]

Any idea of a price and available date?

[mnsayer]

Since its a low mounted turbo, would any aftermarket headers be ok to install? EL UEL...

[ecko04]

Originally Posted by brocktwalker

Any idea of a price and available date?

They've said throughout the thread that they'll provide details as they become available and when they're done testing.

[ecko04]

Originally Posted by mnsayer

Since its a low mounted turbo, would any aftermarket headers be ok to install? EL UEL...

They've confirmed that any aftermarket header would work...including their own.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Please don't think I'm criticizing this kit. I think it's by far the most awesome turbo choice I've seen. Well, the FB 750hp thing is cool too.

Any thoughts on a quick spool valve?

Did they finally confirm or show a dyno of 750 said HP?

[EAGLE5]

Here, http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30737, they show about 737 engine hp if you scale the 164hp baseline at about 22% drive train loss. I certainly prefer dynos run from steady idle (unspooled turbo) to redline, not from over 3000 after revving the engine to spool up. My understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that helps them kick the turbo in at a lower rpm to get a nicer looking curve at the bottom.

[andrew20195]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Here, http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30737, they show about 737whp if you scale the 164hp baseline at about 22% drive train loss. I certainly prefer dynos run from steady idle (unspooled turbo) to redline, not from over 3000 after revving the engine to spool up. My understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that helps them kick the turbo in at a lower rpm to get a nicer looking curve at the bottom.

Turbo systems produce boost in response to load, and a Dynojet can't load the car at low rpm like they would in the real world, so low rpm will always look weaker than it really is. I too am curious how the various turbo kits perform in the 2k-3k rpm range.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Here, http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30737, they show about 737whp if you scale the 164hp baseline at about 22% drive train loss. I certainly prefer dynos run from steady idle (unspooled turbo) to redline, not from over 3000 after revving the engine to spool up. My understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that helps them kick the turbo in at a lower rpm to get a nicer looking curve at the bottom.

That's the 604hp thread. And I have NEVER seen a dyno operator that does a pull from idle. All dyno operators start at around 3k rpms that I have seen. Starting at 3k rpms have nothing to do with there being or not being a turbo. Even N/A they do a pull from 3k rpms. The pull is not in 1st gear remember, it's in the gear closest 1:1 ratio. Which is most the time 4th gear in most cars. You not going to do an idle pull in 4th gear.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

That's the 604hp thread. And I have NEVER seen a dyno operator that does a pull from idle. All dyno operators start at around 3k rpms that I have seen. Starting at 3k rpms have nothing to do with there being or not being a turbo. Even N/A they do a pull from 3k rpms. The pull is not in 1st gear remember, it's in the gear closest 1:1 ratio. Which is most the time 4th gear in most cars. You not going to do an idle pull in 4th gear.

Yeah, I meant engine HP. Edited above. And duh (on me), idle only works for autos. I suppose 1000rpm would work. A load bearing dyno would also be good. I guess I look at these charts and see more marketing than a real-world representation. That's why I like Car and Driver's 5-60mph test. It shows what the car will do more realistically.

Here is an example of a dyno from 1000rpm. http://www.bmw-post.com/2012/10/16/b...iesel-on-dyno/

Seems like useful info to me. For day to day driving, I spend most of my time between 1000 and 4000rpm, but mostly around 2000. I'd really want to know if a twin screw or turbo was giving any boost then. Certainly the factory turbos in many cars do.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Yeah, I meant engine HP. Edited above. And duh (on me), idle only works for autos. I suppose 1000rpm would work. A load bearing dyno would also be good. I guess I look at these charts and see more marketing than a real-world representation. That's why I like Car and Driver's 5-60mph test. It shows what the car will do more realistically.

Here is an example of a dyno from 1000rpm. http://www.bmw-post.com/2012/10/16/b...iesel-on-dyno/

Seems like useful info to me. For day to day driving, I spend most of my time between 1000 and 4000rpm, but mostly around 2000. I'd really want to know if a twin screw or turbo was giving any boost then. Certainly the factory turbos in many cars do.

That was a dyno from Germany, so don't know what their specifics are. I'm in the states. Be it a low rpm, it's not idle still and he went up gears before doing the official pull.

[kanundrum]

Some Pics from this weekends Dyno Day (Car made 392whp). Piping has been updated along with Oil Cooler (Located on the top right hand corner of the front end) Direct air Flow, Won't Block Intercooler or Radiator. Thanks for hosting the Dyno Day @Mrc@ptuning @ptuning

Video of Dyno Coming soon.











Oil Cooler Intake Vent is Right beside the Drivers Headlight