What's your stance on buying new vs used? Would you have gotten an 86 used? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Xdragonxb0i · 05-08-2013, 12:44 PM

i plan to keep my car for ever! so i opted to buy new (only option too)

i always been told, dont buy a used sports car, but i would would buy a used economy car.

WingsofWar · 05-08-2013, 12:55 PM

It really depends on the situation and car in question.
Buying a new car means a level of commitment you don't have to deal with when buying a used car. To some, that commitment is worthless and a waste. To others, that commitment inspires a deeper ownership.

-When a average person goes to a dealer to buy a used car, they can complete the transaction in a afternoon. You get what you get.
-When an average person goes to a dealer to buy a new car, they can spend an entire day at the dealer, signing papers, adding options, getting warranted work. And your generally getting more fluff with your purchase.

Right now, other than the BRZ/FRS. there is nothing i would buy new. I even looked up on craigslist and found 2 used unmolested FRS, and id consider it. But id still rather buy it new. Why? I want a deeper ownership, responsibility, and commitment from the car all it has to offer right out of the factory.

There are a few used cars out there that id wish i could buy brand new. If the S15 silvia was being sold right now NEW, buy it. GC8 WRX STI id buy new. Integra/Civic Type R id buy new, FC rx7 Turbo 2 or even a E30 M3. And id be wholly committed to spending MSRP over the used ones on the market knowing that any of those cars i listed was fresh off the factory, complete with owners assurance, warranty. Its just a better feeling.

Tanuki · 05-08-2013, 01:01 PM

Used is fine, it all depends on availability and price. You can buy my frs for example, and you will get coilovers and wheels for the same price as a new car!

Deep Six · 05-08-2013, 02:48 PM

Typically I buy new and hold on to cars for a while. However the FRS I just bought was owned by a friend and the deal was to good to pass up. He had bought it for his son who joined the military a couple months later. It became a back up daily driver when he didn't feel like driving his F250.

TRD-X · 05-08-2013, 03:00 PM

I always buy new.

I'm anul about my cars very few people take care of their car like I do.

chickdigger802 · 05-08-2013, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Wouldn't pay more than $15k for a used one, and that would have to be pristine (that's quality RX7 money there). As thill stated, it all comes down to price and availability, if there were dozens in the area in good condition (no maawwds) with less than 60k miles and priced around $10k you'd have to be stupid to pay an extra $15-20k to get in the club.

But with that logic we'd all be driving $2,000 miatas.

funny enough my list pretty much ended up down to a used miata or new 86.

The lack of trunk space of a miata is killer for me for a DD though

HotLeopardMama · 05-08-2013, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

It really depends on the situation and car in question.
Buying a new car means a level of commitment you don't have to deal with when buying a used car. To some, that commitment is worthless and a waste. To others, that commitment inspires a deeper ownership.

-When a average person goes to a dealer to buy a used car, they can complete the transaction in a afternoon. You get what you get.
-When an average person goes to a dealer to buy a new car, they can spend an entire day at the dealer, signing papers, adding options, getting warranted work. And your generally getting more fluff with your purchase.

Right now, other than the BRZ/FRS. there is nothing i would buy new. I even looked up on craigslist and found 2 used unmolested FRS, and id consider it. But id still rather buy it new. Why? I want a deeper ownership, responsibility, and commitment from the car all it has to offer right out of the factory.

There are a few used cars out there that id wish i could buy brand new. If the S15 silvia was being sold right now NEW, buy it. GC8 WRX STI id buy new. Integra/Civic Type R id buy new, FC rx7 Turbo 2 or even a E30 M3. And id be wholly committed to spending MSRP over the used ones on the market knowing that any of those cars i listed was fresh off the factory, complete with owners assurance, warranty. Its just a better feeling.

Only took me a few hours to go home with my new FR-S, however, after spending two entire days at the track either autocrossing or learning how to do donuts--and planning on doing more--I would be very cautious in seeking out a used one... who knows what mods they took off? O_o

deange · 05-08-2013, 10:40 PM

I've always bought used vehicles (trucks... the BRZ is actully my first car... ever). I would buy a used BRZ, but I got such a good deal at Heuberger Subaru that there was no point, and there aren't many used ones floating around yet anyway. If this were 2016, I'd almost certainly be looking for a used one. As it is I'll keep mine for a long, long time.

asia_minor · 05-09-2013, 12:28 AM

personally i'd never buy a sports/performance car used. you'd NEVER know what the previous owner did to it. hell, i wouldn't trust it even if I was selling one to myself!

Scaldy · 05-09-2013, 01:07 AM

I always buy used too (VW Gti, Honda FIT) but I heard something on a car show that made me pause...

It was in regards to the old Firebird and how back in the 80's it was impossible to find a used one that hadn't been beaten on. I think the same applies to allot of FRS's.

chickdigger802 · 05-09-2013, 01:46 AM

And you'd think it being so 'underpowered' would keep the adrenaline down :P

I really needa find a way to get a test drive in one of these somewhere where the speed limit is a bit higher than 45 mph :/

MY13FRS · 05-09-2013, 02:01 AM

The FRS is so cheap, anyone should be able to buy new.

shirker · 05-09-2013, 02:10 AM

I told myself I'd never buy a brand new car...but then again I wouldn't trust sports car drivers to not drive their cars in a way befitting the car type. New, for that reason alone.

continuecrushing · 05-09-2013, 02:24 AM

Bottom line, if there's a car you really want and you can't afford it new, you'll get it used.

Well, for me anyway.

I beat on my car just like anyone else, but still hop in it the next day and expect it to start/get me to my destination reliably. Would I want to know that someone else was beating on my car before me? No, but they probably wouldn't have done anything worse than I have. Obviously there are exceptions like retitled salvage or something, but overall the abuse the car goes through is similar whether its me driving or the person before me.

Now, I bought my car new, but if I had to have an frs, and the only way I could afford it was used, that's what I'd do.

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05-08-2013, 12:44 PM	#15
Xdragonxb0i Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: ex500r Location: AR Posts: 859 Thanks: 13 Thanked 105 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i plan to keep my car for ever! so i opted to buy new (only option too) i always been told, dont buy a used sports car, but i would would buy a used economy car. __________________

05-08-2013, 12:55 PM	#16
WingsofWar MODERATOR-SAMA Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Swagtron Scooter Location: Seattle Posts: 2,685 Thanks: 345 Thanked 1,562 Times in 524 Posts Mentioned: 81 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It really depends on the situation and car in question. Buying a new car means a level of commitment you don't have to deal with when buying a used car. To some, that commitment is worthless and a waste. To others, that commitment inspires a deeper ownership. -When a average person goes to a dealer to buy a used car, they can complete the transaction in a afternoon. You get what you get. -When an average person goes to a dealer to buy a new car, they can spend an entire day at the dealer, signing papers, adding options, getting warranted work. And your generally getting more fluff with your purchase. Right now, other than the BRZ/FRS. there is nothing i would buy new. I even looked up on craigslist and found 2 used unmolested FRS, and id consider it. But id still rather buy it new. Why? I want a deeper ownership, responsibility, and commitment from the car all it has to offer right out of the factory. There are a few used cars out there that id wish i could buy brand new. If the S15 silvia was being sold right now NEW, buy it. GC8 WRX STI id buy new. Integra/Civic Type R id buy new, FC rx7 Turbo 2 or even a E30 M3. And id be wholly committed to spending MSRP over the used ones on the market knowing that any of those cars i listed was fresh off the factory, complete with owners assurance, warranty. Its just a better feeling. __________________

05-08-2013, 03:00 PM	#19
TRD-X Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Da-Big Banana Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,199 Thanks: 1,311 Thanked 955 Times in 534 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I always buy new. I'm anul about my cars very few people take care of their car like I do. __________________ Supratwins/TRD-X aka Jim Gone to a higher plane of existence!

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deange Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Black 2013 BRZ Limited Automatic Location: Southern California Posts: 84 Thanks: 5 Thanked 51 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've always bought used vehicles (trucks... the BRZ is actully my first car... ever). I would buy a used BRZ, but I got such a good deal at Heuberger Subaru that there was no point, and there aren't many used ones floating around yet anyway. If this were 2016, I'd almost certainly be looking for a used one. As it is I'll keep mine for a long, long time.

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asia_minor Superleggera Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2016 Mazda MX-5 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 191 Thanks: 72 Thanked 68 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	personally i'd never buy a sports/performance car used. you'd NEVER know what the previous owner did to it. hell, i wouldn't trust it even if I was selling one to myself!

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Scaldy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 red FR-S mt Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 166 Thanks: 93 Thanked 55 Times in 35 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I always buy used too (VW Gti, Honda FIT) but I heard something on a car show that made me pause... It was in regards to the old Firebird and how back in the 80's it was impossible to find a used one that hadn't been beaten on. I think the same applies to allot of FRS's.

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chickdigger802 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 1997 Geo Prizm Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 135 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	And you'd think it being so 'underpowered' would keep the adrenaline down :P I really needa find a way to get a test drive in one of these somewhere where the speed limit is a bit higher than 45 mph :/

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MY13FRS ***** Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 13 FRS Location: Pluto Posts: 177 Thanks: 12 Thanked 72 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The FRS is so cheap, anyone should be able to buy new.

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shirker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: '13 Limited BRZ Location: VA Posts: 180 Thanks: 66 Thanked 96 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I told myself I'd never buy a brand new car...but then again I wouldn't trust sports car drivers to not drive their cars in a way befitting the car type. New, for that reason alone.

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continuecrushing Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FRS Location: Lake Elsinore, CA Posts: 2,707 Thanks: 1,231 Thanked 2,144 Times in 1,003 Posts Mentioned: 73 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Bottom line, if there's a car you really want and you can't afford it new, you'll get it used. Well, for me anyway. I beat on my car just like anyone else, but still hop in it the next day and expect it to start/get me to my destination reliably. Would I want to know that someone else was beating on my car before me? No, but they probably wouldn't have done anything worse than I have. Obviously there are exceptions like retitled salvage or something, but overall the abuse the car goes through is similar whether its me driving or the person before me. Now, I bought my car new, but if I had to have an frs, and the only way I could afford it was used, that's what I'd do.

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