Pbm's vs Bc coilovers

[Jarumie42172]

I'm torn between buying pbm's (powered by max) or bc coilovers with the extreme drop. Does anyone have any experience with the 2 coilovers? How do they compare with how low they go and the ride quality. I wont be doing any major driving just that static stance look. I can't seem to decide with which to buy.

I don't mind the stiff ride

Thanks for the help if any

[deucethemoose]

Save your money and buy air ride if all you care about is hard parking and looking at it. That way it doesn't drive/ride like dog shit when you need to go anywhere.

[Jarumie42172]

Originally Posted by deucethemoose

Save your money and buy air ride if all you care about is hard parking and looking at it. That way it doesn't drive/ride like dog shit when you need to go anywhere.

No thanks I dont need the privilege to raise my car when I need to go somewhere. That's why I'm going to stay static

[deucethemoose]

So I guess speed bumps and small abrupt parking lot entrances don't exist in Las Vegas?

If you want to buy crappy coilovers that will just allow you to slam it then why even inquire about ride quality? Nothing has a good ride quality when you have it that low. Buy whatever is cheapest so that it doesn't kill your wallet when you need to replace them.

[Jarumie42172]

Originally Posted by deucethemoose

So I guess speed bumps and small abrupt parking lot entrances don't exist in Las Vegas?

Yeah basically and the roads are mainly smooth in my area no speed bor anything

[boredom.is.me]

Why not get cheap Megans then?

Or just remove the spring in the stock coilover then weld it? < I'm being a smart ass there.

[m.wood0213]

buy good or not at all save your money so your not buy 2 cheap sets just 1 good set. KW or wait for Zeal to make some for our cars. QUALITY over quantity.

[infinite012]

Originally Posted by m.wood0213

buy good or not at all save your money so your not buy 2 cheap sets just 1 good set. KW or wait for Zeal to make some for our cars. QUALITY over quantity.

You obviously didn't read the OP. He just wants to be low, not have a quality coilover system.

[2point0]

I've ridden on the first production set of PBM coilovers (Dan's FR-S). They are actually really damn nice. These were the MAX Pro, I believe (the more expensive of the two). They sourced a spring that they liked a lot better than the Swift ones they were getting previously.

He took me down one of their local roads that has to be one of the worst in SD. Cracks and repairs everywhere. It rode firmly but smoothly over everything, then we did a few circles in the cul de sac.

One thing that probably helps a bunch is that he had their custom LCAs which add a good deal of travel for the rears. Solid diff bushings, too IIRC.

But I'll say, I was not expecting them to ride so nicely for "entry level pricing" coilovers.


Oh, and his car is pretty slammed. I could barely fit my shoe under the car.

For reference:

[m.wood0213]

Originally Posted by infinite012

You obviously didn't read the OP. He just wants to be low, not have a quality coilover system.

Oh I read it I was just trying to save hime from buying 2 sets because the first "cheap" set will blow or break and those mfg will not help you out, in fact most will not. I was doing research for a good set of coilovers for mk3 supra for a track build, I tried to contact multiple mfg multiple times and only had responses from Zeal, JIC, BuddyClub, and eventually Tein. Others wouldn't even acknowledge me so they were instantly off my list (wouldn't write me back in an email they probably wouldn't help me out if a shock blew). Zeal by endless and JIC were the ones who worked with me the most, BuddyCLubs were discontinued, Tein set was discontinued as well. A good set will run 2k but well worth it.

[Jarumie42172]

Originally Posted by 2point0

I've ridden on the first production set of PBM coilovers (Dan's FR-S). They are actually really damn nice. These were the MAX Pro, I believe (the more expensive of the two). They sourced a spring that they liked a lot better than the Swift ones they were getting previously.

He took me down one of their local roads that has to be one of the worst in SD. Cracks and repairs everywhere. It rode firmly but smoothly over everything, then we did a few circles in the cul de sac.

One thing that probably helps a bunch is that he had their custom LCAs which add a good deal of travel for the rears. Solid diff bushings, too IIRC.

But I'll say, I was not expecting them to ride so nicely for "entry level pricing" coilovers.


Oh, and his car is pretty slammed. I could barely fit my shoe under the car.

Thanks for being help. There just isn't any reviews on the pbms

[2point0]

No problem! I think if you have any questions about the PBM stuff, send them an email. Dan is usually really busy, but if you get to talk to him just say Matt V. (with the BRZ) sent you. He knows a crapload about suspension and how to fix the issues caused by lowering a car to extremes. Personally, I don't want to go that low. But I am seriously considering his coilovers if I don't just get springs.

[YDNA]

wait for the RSR Black-i

[imput1234]

Originally Posted by deucethemoose

Nothing has a good ride quality when you have it that low.

Not true what so ever. You have 0 evidence to back that up.

But, back to topic. From personal experience I can tell you that BC Coil-overs suck ass, horrible valving, and ride like shit when you slam your car.

PBM Comps are supposed to suck, pros are supposed to be decent.

STANCE in my opinion makes the best entry level coilover, rides super smooth and good when your super low.