Do they use the same paint? FR-S and BRZ?

[GreySaber]

Hello all. I just moved to LA. It was my intention when I arrived to buy an FRS. I test drove one back home and liked it.

I got out here and test drove one on the LA streets, which aren't as even or as often paved as the ones back home, and I found the FRS had an overly harsh ride. I'll give it another go next week, just to make sure I didn't get a bad one or drive it on a bad day, but I took a BRZ out the same day, and found the ride less harsh then on the scion. I haven't chosen yet, and I'll take them both out again, but right now I'm leaning towards the Brz.

So, my question is, do they use the same paints? I went around back home and looked at the scions in all shades, (have a fine arts degree. Shades of colors are important to me.) I noticed the asphalt shade had a textured feel. I was leaning towards black. If I go to the BRZ I might have to rethink my color choices, and there don't seem to be a lot of BRZs in the LA area.

Different paints for each? Or same factory/same paints?

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by GreySaber

Hello all. I just moved to LA. It was my intention when I arrived to buy an FRS. I test drove one back home and liked it.

I got out here and test drove one on the LA streets, which aren't as even or as often paved as the ones back home, and I found the FRS had an overly harsh ride. I'll give it another go next week, just to make sure I didn't get a bad one or drive it on a bad day, but I took a BRZ out the same day, and found the ride less harsh then on the scion. I haven't chosen yet, and I'll take them both out again, but right now I'm leaning towards the Brz.

So, my question is, do they use the same paints? I went around back home and looked at the scions in all shades, (have a fine arts degree. Shades of colors are important to me.) I noticed the asphalt shade had a textured feel. I was leaning towards black. If I go to the BRZ I might have to rethink my color choices, and there don't seem to be a lot of BRZs in the LA area.

Different paints for each? Or same factory/same paints?

Same exact paint for BRZ and FRS, they are made in the same factory, the only differences are the colors which are exclusive to each car like Ignition Silver( not to be confused with Argento) and Hot lava is only to the FRS, the BRZ has it's World Rally Blue. Scion just likes to name them differently to differential themselves.

[Guff]

Same Subaru paint for all the cars. The textured feel that you noticed is orange peel, which is essentially imperfection of the paint due to its composition and application process.

[GreySaber]

I thought that textured feel was intentional? It's only on the asphalt grey, and it's very very even, so I imagined it to be by intent.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by GreySaber

I thought that textured feel was intentional? It's only on the asphalt grey, and it's very very even, so I imagined it to be by intent.

It's not intentional.. The same day I test drove the FRS.. I went to check out the cayman.. Same orange peel on Porsches as well.. It didn't used to be that way on the older P cars... The way of the world

[LeeMaster]

A lot of people have been saying the paint is the same, but when my mileage was only 500, I paid a visit to a local Scion dealer who happen to have a Red FRS in the lot. I parked my Red BRZ next to the Red FRS, I noticed that my BRZ has a brighter red to it compared to the Scion.

If they truly are suppose to be the same color, then either my eyes were playing games with me, or someone at the factory screwed up mine or the Scion. I have yet to hear from other members to see if they ever did the real life comparisons themselves regarding red.

EDIT: I did swap my stock trunk with another BRZ member and the color does match, so I am guessing it really has to do with the different batch of paint that they use on the Scion.

[sbxjap]

Originally Posted by LeeMaster

A lot of people have been saying the paint is the same, but when my mileage was only 500, I paid a visit to a local Scion dealer who happen to have a Red FRS in the lot. I parked my Red BRZ next to the Red FRS, I noticed that my BRZ has a brighter red to it compared to the Scion.

If they truly are suppose to be the same color, then either my eyes were playing games with me, or someone at the factory screwed up mine or the Scion. I have yet to hear from other members to see if they ever did the real life comparisons themselves regarding red.

Maybe different batch of paint, lol. Red is a pain to match...

I work at a body shop, and the painter showed me these cards he used. He was painting a Honda Odyssey. Over 5 cards were same color code except they had extra letter attached to end to differentiate the variances. I tried to match... Then thought I had better things to do than stare at color cards all day...

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

It's not intentional.. The same day I test drove the FRS.. I went to check out the cayman.. Same orange peel on Porsches as well.. It didn't used to be that way on the older P cars... The way of the world

the germans get more money for their "orange peel" because it's well,"'special"
orange peel,it's porsche orange peel. it's engineered to be better!..ehe! he! he!

[CircuitJerk]

Temperature and humidity often play a role in how the clear coat dries. Even though the plant is supposed to be a controlled environment, a slight change in the mix (thinner/reducer), a failure of an air handler or environmental control and you end up with a drying process that is little to be desired.
There are other factors such as film thickness, pressures of the fluid and air mixture at the nozzle, wait time before recoating, etc.
A slight orange peel is considered to be commercially or industrially acceptable.

[Kwisak]

When I had asked about the orange peel, with my wrx which had the same. They told me it was intentional as the orange peel paint is more scratch resistant. Not saying this is the truth, just what I was told.

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Same exact paint for BRZ and FRS, they are made in the same factory, the only differences are the colors which are exclusive to each car like Ignition Silver( not to be confused with Argento) and Hot lava is only to the FRS, the BRZ has it's World Rally Blue. Scion just likes to name them differently to differential themselves.

Originally Posted by Guff

Same Subaru paint for all the cars. The textured feel that you noticed is orange peel, which is essentially imperfection of the paint due to its composition and application process.

Can we merge these for a future FAQ? If anything I'll start one up so we can have these great answers in one sticky. Link the sticky to a PM when members sign up. Great feature I saw on another forum I recently signed up on

Originally Posted by GreySaber

I thought that textured feel was intentional? It's only on the asphalt grey, and it's very very even, so I imagined it to be by intent.

Maybe its due to the fact it has metallic flakes?

I think the optigaurd removes this and/or clear bra

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Can we merge these for a future FAQ? If anything I'll start one up so we can have these great answers in one sticky. Link the sticky to a PM when members sign up. Great feature I saw on another forum I recently signed up on



Maybe its due to the fact it has metallic flakes?

I think the optigaurd removes this and/or clear bra

I was gonna start a wikia soon for the forum just need to start it otl

[jshadeck]

Neither opti nor clearbra will remove orange peel. Every color frs/brz i have seen has it, its just harder to see on some colors. Take a tube light over the surface in a garage and ull see it. Only way to get rid of it is to pay for a good paintjob

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by CircuitJerk

Temperature and humidity often play a role in how the clear coat dries. Even though the plant is supposed to be a controlled environment, a slight change in the mix (thinner/reducer), a failure of an air handler or environmental control and you end up with a drying process that is little to be desired.
There are other factors such as film thickness, pressures of the fluid and air mixture at the nozzle, wait time before recoating, etc.
A slight orange peel is considered to be commercially or industrially acceptable.

really? at what price point?..may i ask?
at any price point?..seems odd!..just sayin'