turbo yes

[subaruslow]

Originally Posted by youngxlos

Everyone always talks about turbo lag... from my experience there is barely any lag, and its only noticeable wen I'm in like 6 gear in the highway and i put my foot down, takes about 1 second to hit boost then the car is off.
So unless your using a massive GT35R you'll barely notice lag, I have a GT2860RS and when i put my foot down the car goes, there is no lag, and I'm using 9.0:1 CR

Supercharging to me is stupid, it takes power to make power, turbos dont.
we can sit here and argue about it all day, its all personal preference if they make a factory supercharged good for them, ill still rather turbo mine.

Do you realize a bone stock 335i bmw with 6psi of boost makes 100% of its torque from 1400 rpms on???????????

dunno how to respond other than I'll show you my med turbo upgraded sti blowing the doors of na cars.

compare a 2.5 to a 2.5 turbo, the turbo car can easily have as much or better response.

Hence why all european manufac are heading towards less cylinders+turbo

[youngxlos]

Originally Posted by subaruslow

Do you realize a bone stock 335i bmw with 6psi of boost makes 100% of its torque from 1400 rpms on???????????

dunno how to respond other than I'll show you my med turbo upgraded sti blowing the doors of na cars.

compare a 2.5 to a 2.5 turbo, the turbo car can easily have as much or better response.

Hence why all european manufac are heading towards less cylinders+turbo

what is your point?? i never said anything wrong about turbos... i own a turbo car, and if i was going Force induction I dont want anything else but turbo.

was that comment aimed to ryude that was saying all turbos have lag???

[Dark]

Originally Posted by youngxlos

what is your point?? i never said anything wrong about turbos... i own a turbo car, and if i was going Force induction I dont want anything else but turbo.

was that comment aimed to ryude that was saying all turbos have lag???

I think the guy was confused and thought you were against turbo.

[Levi]

I wonder why Ferrari is not yet going turbo if turbo is so much better? The MP4-12C with high revving turbo engine is marginally faster than the Ferrari, yet also lighter than the F-car.

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by Levi

I wonder why Ferrari is not yet going turbo if turbo is so much better? The MP4-12C with high revving turbo engine is marginally faster than the Ferrari, yet also lighter than the F-car.

They did back with the F40.

Ferrari, like Toyoda-san, understand that turbo's have lag and a disconnected throttle response, which detracts from the emotional connection to the car. McLaren isn't interested in Man/Machine relationships, only lap times and statistics.

This is why Ferrari's drop panties and McLaren's get NASA-geek attention.

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by Infernal

has anyone ever heard of someone supercharging a boxer/flat4 ?

??

[subaruslow]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

They did back with the F40.

Ferrari, like Toyoda-san, understand that turbo's have lag and a disconnected throttle response, which detracts from the emotional connection to the car. McLaren isn't interested in Man/Machine relationships, only lap times and statistics.

This is why Ferrari's drop panties and McLaren's get NASA-geek attention.

This is ridiculous, you are clearly a reader not a driver. You are generalizing beyond idiocy.

This is why;

-Australian v8 supercars are turbo'ed
-Some lmp1 american leman cars
-FERRARIS BEST and many other f1 cars until 1989 when turbos were banned. Ferraris 1980's turbo f1 car was a dominator

You don't even understand the argument you are making. There is some validity to joe schmoe saying his z06 or whatever it may be has good low end and response compared to a car with a turbo (generally against a stock car). However a similarly displaced car with a turbo charged, or a correctly matched turbo/engine setup can easily dominate an n/a car and give far better response. N/A cars like m3 have zero torque and crap low end, so low end could easily be matched by a turbo'ed car.try driving one.

Saying they detract from emotional response is utter horseshit. The rush oh a high horsepower turbo car is hard to beat, and if fast with a robust powerband theres nothing better.

If ferrari had a turbo you'd crap yourself in the drivers seat. Ferrari knows only a certain amm of power combine with handling is needed and at a certain point more power is too much, and thats true of any chasis/drivetrain.

Also trashing mclaren is idiotic and makes you look foolish.

[Levi]

Try an M3 E9X and rev its V8 till 8.400 RPM all day, then tell me if it has torque and if its not fun.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

They did back with the F40.

Ferrari, like Toyoda-san, understand that turbo's have lag and a disconnected throttle response, which detracts from the emotional connection to the car. McLaren isn't interested in Man/Machine relationships, only lap times and statistics.

This is why Ferrari's drop panties and McLaren's get NASA-geek attention.

Now maybe, but the F1 was phenomenal.

[quik1987]

It would be cool if

Toyota = Supercharger

Subaru = Turbocharger

[phenoyz]

will the toyota TRD supercharger FIT in the brz engine? in case you bought the brz and later on you wanted to add the TRD supercharger?

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by phenoyz

will the toyota TRD supercharger FIT in the brz engine? in case you bought the brz and later on you wanted to add the TRD supercharger?

If it fits the Toyota it fits the Subaru.

[old greg]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

If it fits the Toyota it fits the Subaru.

I think the question that really needs to be asked is; Will the TRD supercharger fit with the Subaru turbocharger?

[subaruslow]

Originally Posted by Levi

Try an M3 E9X and rev its V8 till 8.400 RPM all day, then tell me if it has torque and if its not fun.

Amazing fun but not the only way to do it.