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BMWDAD 12-02-2011 07:50 AM

turbo yes
 
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2588

Buggy51 12-02-2011 07:53 AM

You mean... supercharging?

Dark 12-02-2011 07:53 AM

Turbocharger No, Supercharger most likely.

BMWDAD 12-02-2011 07:55 AM

okay

carbonBLUE 12-02-2011 08:04 AM

i would be fine with a supercharger with a built in intercooler w/ warrantee :D i would be all over that... lol

Dark 12-02-2011 08:35 AM

Like the article says, Toyota needs to retune the suspension to handle extra power. I prefer a model with tuned suspension and supercharger installed from factory better than the one installed by a dealership. Maybe Supercharged FR-S Release Series.

Levi 12-02-2011 08:48 AM

What a Supercharger adds 100 kg more? In this case I prefere an engine kit, the car gets even lighter.

SUB-FT86 12-02-2011 08:59 AM

I highly doubt they meant the Supercharger alone adding 100kg. I guess they meant beefing up other components as well.

70NYD 12-02-2011 09:50 AM

Lol a properly tuned and upgraded CAR will always involve adding Breyer brakes, driveline components and suspension to match the power
You loose handling from increased squat under more power, but who thinks about that really??

Ryephile 12-02-2011 09:57 AM

For the link-adverse:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUTOCAR.co.uk
Toyota is already hard at work evaluating a high performance version of the new Toyota GT 86 sporting coupe. Chief engineer Tetsuo Tada says that not only is a supercharged GT 86 envisaged, test cars have already been made and are being evaluated by Toyota Racing Developments, the Japanese giant’s in house tuning division.
Tada-san favours the supercharger approach because it is simpler to achieve than increasing engine size and doesn’t wreck throttle response as turbocharging might. Indeed Toyota says that turbocharging along with four-wheel drive and wide tyres are what make sports cars boring to drive.
See our rendering of the hot Toyota GT 86
Supercharging is also a key competence for TRD which has been offering this kind of forced induction as an aftermarket kit for Toyotas since 1998. He would not be drawn on what kind of power a supercharged GT 86 might develop but Toyota is known to consider the car’s chassis could easily handle an additional 50bhp to go with the 197bhp already generated by its Subaru 2-litre flat four motor, a view with which, having driven the car, we wholly concur. However he says the TRD is also looking at ways of modifying the suspension to cope with the extra power, raising the possibility of a still more substantial power hike.
Read more about the Toyota GT 86
TRD’s most popular supercharger conversion is applied to the American market Tacoma pick up, boosting its 4-litre V6 engine from 233bhp to 301bhp suggesting that a 280bhp GT 86 with, critically, a massive boost in the low down torque the car currently lacks would be easily achieved. Even in the unlikely event that all the modifications added 100kg to the weight of the car, its power to weight ratio would still at least equal that of the 326bhp Nissan 370Z, a car capable of hitting 62mph from rest in 5.3sec and recording a top speed of 155mph. The standard GT 86 needs around 6.8sec and does 143mph. It is not yet known whether, if approved, the supercharged GT 86 would be offered as an aftermarket pack or as a model in its own right.
Tada also confirmed that it was so important to his team that even the standard GT 86 drifted properly that special tests were incorporated into the car’s development programme specifically for this purpose, ‘the first time this has ever been done on any Toyota.’
Andrew Frankel

Amusing points to me:
*they pretty much diss any turbo AWD car, which I got a LOL out of
*they readily admit having TRD working on the chassis tuning for a supercharged setup
*They leaked that they're doing a supercharger setup. Does Toyota get their jollies leading-on potential customers?

Infernal 12-02-2011 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70NYD (Post 87897)
Lol a properly tuned and upgraded CAR will always involve adding Breyer brakes, driveline components and suspension to match the power
You loose handling from increased squat under more power, but who thinks about that really??

very true - most people think spending all of their money on a remap and turbo-back exhaust then adding GReddy stickers and painting their calipers red is adequate :P

keiri 12-02-2011 10:05 AM

One could take this to mean that further along the way the possible differentiators being the Toyota/Scion will be supercharged and the Subarus turbocharged; it would push the two models further apart and further allow people to choose the car that provides power the way they prefer.

Interesting if true and it does make me wonder about a timeline on this.

Longhorn248 12-02-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernal (Post 87909)
very true - most people think spending all of their money on a remap and turbo-back exhaust then adding GReddy stickers and painting their calipers red is adequate :P

Everyone knows that red is better! It makes car faster and brakes stop quicker.

Dragonitti 12-02-2011 10:42 AM

If it's a supercharger, I would hope it would be a roots type.


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