Scion Drops the ball...

[gte]

Not to state the obvious, but I have more car knowledge in my pinky then you have in your entire body.

Originally Posted by subaruslow

VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR STUPIDITY and LACK OF CAR KNOWLEDGE

PLZ leave.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by KAuss

Well for those that can afford it, don't ruin it for the ones that can't...

If you can truly afford the best of the best LFA

I'd run out of time before I could finish the cars I'd buy before the LFA.. not tht it's not a great car, but it's not the kind of car I'd want.

[gte]

Had it came out looking like v2/v3 and not a rwdScion TC, it would have most certainly been intended for me as a great daily driver.

When they started talking about making the ECU tunable, I already started thinking about bit banging and backwards engineering so that I could write a gui that would flash the ecu serially. Now that's just a pipe dream as I'm not settling for unappealing and underpowered, I can be reasonable and settle for one of those, not both.

Originally Posted by pastuch

Then the FRS/BRZ were never intended for you in the first place and you should have known that 2 years ago! This is a Subaru with a Scion badge and a Toyota tuned engine. Toyota has no plans to build sports cars of their own, unless you know of some recent news that I'm missing. The LF-A is an overpriced super car.

The retarded comment wasn't directed at you specifically, more the countless posts from people complaining about things they can upgrade easily.

[KAuss]

I don't read about Porsches, BMWs, Mercs, Audis, Ferraries, etc...

Because to me they're all dead...

I'm the same way, when Toyota came out with the LF-A, all that info sailed right over my head... I'm not a big gearhead, so I only keep myself intuned to what I have a shot at obtaining and what it'll be pitted against...

LF-A have been said to be nothing more than a tech marvel, it isn't really a bargain at the asking price... Same with the Veyron, it was a car done purely because it can be done, doesn't make it a great sports car... Or something I'd buy even if I can afford it...

I'd buy a fleet of GT-Rs before I get one of thems

[Syldrin]

i bet this car starts at 24 i mean come on we all know how scion works. they make a base car then try to sell you 10K worth of add ons.

[KAuss]

GTE, I know you don't like the way it looks, but honestly this does not appeal to you?



I mean heck that thing is beast!

Not only that, but if this car becomes the rwd Civic, trust me there'll be body kits, there'll be ways to express yourself... The coolest thing about forums like this and cars in general is that you can always personalize and make things your own...

Back in the 90s, despite Civics being a Civic, there are very many unique ones out there because the choices were out there...

Like I said, don't be so near sighted, open up and experience it in the light of the aftermarket...

[Torquesteered]

We get it, you don't like the car. The car you want is not what this car is or was ever supposed to be. Your post really serves this forum no service and I for 1 would'nt spend my time posting on a forum of a car I don't like.

That said, no need to be rude guys. Opinions differ and we are all free to have our own. Just ignore these kinda posts if they bother you and quit letting them waste your time.

[DA1]

Can anyone find any specs for Australia / New Zealand on BRZ or GT86?

[gte]

Not really ... I'm all about aftermarket, but I'm not going to fix the body and the engine, it's going to be one or the other.

I know Toyota is going after the tuner market, because they made it a Scion and they said the ECU will not use proprietary protocols like Toyota's in the past ... it'd be great if this was this decades Civic, I just don't have the time to spend on redoing the whole car, I might as well not buy it if I go into it thinking I'm going to have to do that. If this were my only sports car then maybe, but it isn't. Like I said earlier, if it looked nice like the v2/v3 I could stomach it being underpowered.

Toyota put steak on the menu, and it served pit beef. If they had started with pit beef all along, it might not be such a let down.

Originally Posted by KAuss

GTE, I know you don't like the way it looks, but honestly this does not appeal to you?



I mean heck that thing is beast!

Not only that, but if this car becomes the rwd Civic, trust me there'll be body kits, there'll be ways to express yourself... The coolest thing about forums like this and cars in general is that you can always personalize and make things your own...

Back in the 90s, despite Civics being a Civic, there are very many unique ones out there because the choices were out there...

Like I said, don't be so near sighted, open up and experience it in the light of the aftermarket...

[OldSkoolToys]

Cool, more people can go Subaru then and wait in line for their glamour interiors so they can drive around and feel like they're super cool with digital climate control and rear seats that only function as a resting place for tossing goods quickly back there from the front.

More available Scions for the actual drivers. Scion, you clever devils!

No seriously, I honestly can't remember the last time I looked at the rear seats in my AE86 and said "Damn...you know, those were made cheaply...why did I even buy this car?"

[Matador]

Oh FFS.... not this again....

Originally Posted by old greg

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#winning

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

Originally Posted by pastuch

This car was engineered to be a Mans Miata. Fun to drive, cheap, good track day car, and a great laugh. The fact that it's good looking is an epic bonus.

I think a lot of the forum noobs need to go buy themselves a 2013 Genesis Coupe 2.0T. It has every single thing the whiners want but I'm certain they won't because they are too stupid to realize that brand identity purchasing is RETARDED!

Please. Pretty please. I'll take everything else off my christmas list ***just*** for that.

Originally Posted by subaruslow

VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR STUPIDITY and LACK OF CAR KNOWLEDGE

PLZ leave.

+1

Originally Posted by KAuss

Seriously guys, if it's immature to post about the car and complain about it, this kind of behavior is what turns the forum into Civic forums of yore...

I'm no mod here, but have been in others and trust me if Hachi isn't sleeping right now there'd be some delete buttons and ban hammers on a BUNCH of people as of late...

Nowhere does anyone on this forum have the right to lower the entire forum's class by making remarks like this...

This kind of behavior saddens me more than the crop of near troll like threads...

GDIAF.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by Torquesteered

We get it, you don't like the car. The car you want is not what this car is or was ever supposed to be. Your post really serves this forum no service and I for 1 would'nt spend my time posting on a forum of a car I don't like.

That said, no need to be rude guys. Opinions differ and we are all free to have our own. Just ignore these kinda posts if they bother you and quit letting them waste your time.

Everyone is indeed entitled to their own opinion and especially after the Scion unveiling, there has been an increase of more disappointed members.

You guys should have gotten a clue the moment they announced it as a Scion here in the US. The focus was to help revive Scion as a brand and keep the cost low.

I always find it amusing when people reference the Five Axis FR-S!

[sal]

Are you really comparing an XRS to an FRS? lolololol.

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by gte

Dear Toyota,

After a 14 year hiatus with sports cars, this production version was the best you could do? Really Toyota? The production version of the car is a huge let down.
........
Your production version of the car is a terrible failure of what could have been an excellent, smaller successor to the Supra. You've done absolutely nothing for the enthusiast in the past decade, and this car is an insult to all of us....

So your real complaint isn't that Toyota made the MR Spyder until 2007 [thus debunking your 14 year theory], it's that you wanted a new Supra. Since Toyota was adamant since 2009 that this car would be an AE86 successor [and upheld that promise] your dislike is frankly misguided.

If you don't like the 86, that's fine. Don't get bent that it's not something else.