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Old 03-28-2013, 08:16 AM   #29
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why don't you just go and try it. there's nothing to lose... even though all of us here already know it's not gonna happen at toyota.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:41 AM   #30
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I got a good deal by playing two dealerships against each other. Went to first one, found a well informed salesman and test drove. Went to second dealer and tried to haggle. They gave me a price that I thought was high. Went back to first dealer, got it for 600 over invoice. Other dealer called me and offered me at invoice but I did not like thier attitude.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:50 AM   #31
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If you think the price sucks and you're conspiring with friends to try to save $2k, you probably shouldn't be buying the car. $2k really doesn't add much to your payments in the end, so if the extra $40 or so a month breaks your budget you may want to save up a little longer before committing to a new sports car.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:04 PM   #32
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expect to pay a mark up because of the demand for the car i had to pay a $2500 premium above sticker price.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:20 PM   #33
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I, myself, and 2 other friends want to buy a FRS. We are committed to the car. It's the price we hate. MSRP sucks.

What are the odds that all three of us can get a SCION dealer to sell us the FRS for 1K (maybe 2K) under the MSRP if we all decide to make the purchase on the same day at the end of March?



TL;DR Three people go into a Scion at the same time on March 31st and buys each themselves an FRS at 2K below MSRP. Will it work?
More than likely you will not be able to negotiate $1-2k below msrp on a FRS and when it comes to a BRZ (yeah right). The Subaru dealerships (around 4) I have called or visited purposely mark up their BRZ's $6-8k. Next to that you have tax on each car + registration + potential extended warranties + protection options you may want to include. Once you add it all together you will really not like the final price.

I just experienced this as I purchased my FRS last week. However, I was expecting it so there was not a huge surprise when I saw the final total.

My only advice to you is if you really don't like the price but you still REALLY want the car you should finance it on a 7+ year term. Yes, it seems long but monthly payments will be far less AND you still have the ability to pay it off sooner if you so choose (or God forbid, sell it).

If you have any questions I would be happy to help (not that I am a guru) but I did just experience the whole new car purchase for the first time.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:50 PM   #34
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So what happened? were you able to get a discount?
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:02 PM   #35
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If you think the price sucks and you're conspiring with friends to try to save $2k, you probably shouldn't be buying the car. $2k really doesn't add much to your payments in the end, so if the extra $40 or so a month breaks your budget you may want to save up a little longer before committing to a new sports car.
Well 40 bucks also isn't nothing either. I mean which would you prefer to pay? 360$ a month or 400$? or 310$ a month or 350$?

Not to mention an extra 40$ over a 60 month period is 2400$ extra without any interest.

But I think the moral of the story is more along the lines that this car is going to be difficult to haggle price with. If you really want it, be prepared to pay MSRP, or be okay with wasting a couple hours and walking out with nothing.

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Old 04-13-2013, 09:03 PM   #36
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Well 40 bucks also isn't nothing either. I mean which would you prefer to pay? 360$ a month or 400$? or 310$ a month or 350$?

Not to mention an extra 40$ over a 60 month period is 2400$ extra without any interest.

But I think the moral of the story is more along the lines that this car is going to be difficult to haggle price with. If you really want it, be prepared to pay MSRP, or be okay with wasting a couple hours and walking out with nothing.

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I 100% agree. $40 a month is a lot of money. However, you probably shouldn't be looking at this car if $40 every month makes or breaks your means of living comfortably.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:15 PM   #37
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Yes it'll work for the BRZ. No it won't work for the FR-S.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:35 PM   #38
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LOL. Now you're showing your age. Today the dealership makes much more if you put the minimum down and let them handle financing.
this is true unfortunately! they receive a "kickback"
fron the various financial institutions. there is ONE possibility
and that is IF the dealer is "stuck" with a "'slow" moving vehicle
at the end of the month,and cash MAY be a negotiating tool to move a unit for allocation purposes...just sayin'
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:41 PM   #39
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LOL. Now you're showing your age. Today the dealership makes much more if you put the minimum down and let them handle financing.
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1. If you are in the mood to haggle, shop for a used frs or try haggling the price of a new brz.
2. If you are looking buy multiple cars target a high volume dealership due to the nature of allotments, but you may find it easier to locate multiple frs versus brz which takes you back to point one.
3. If you can use your trade to offset the frs sticker price, then there is haggling room there.

...just my two cents.
true! your only chance is if you can negotiate an "overallowance"
on your trade for the frs.some dealers will allow this if they believe you are serious and will buy the car right away! it's worth a shot! all they can say is no,and attempt to "low ball" you on the trade instead.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:42 PM   #40
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I, myself, and 2 other friends want to buy a FRS. We are committed to the car. It's the price we hate. MSRP sucks.

What are the odds that all three of us can get a SCION dealer to sell us the FRS for 1K (maybe 2K) under the MSRP if we all decide to make the purchase on the same day at the end of March?



TL;DR Three people go into a Scion at the same time on March 31st and buys each themselves an FRS at 2K below MSRP. Will it work?

My sugestion is to buy used. Even better, buy from an individual. There are people who have bought the car and changed their mind. I have 3 sitting on lots around here that have less than 8k miles on them (one has 2k) and they stickers on them are ~$25k. Those are not part of Scion's no haggle policy and you can dig in and try and shoot for a 'deal' on them.
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Nothing against the FR-S but I don't see why anyone would buy one when the BRZ is a much better deal. I almost bought an FR-S last year and decided to wait. Both cars are readily available in Virginia now and while the Scion is still non-negotiable the BRZ if you look, is very negotiable. the difference between an FR-S and a fully loaded BRZ Limited is about $3,000. I paid only a $1,200 difference and got all the extras (fog lights, heated leather,heated outside mirrors, navigation, auto climate control,keyless start and entry to name a few of the upgrades).Subaru was also offering lower interest rates then the Scion dealers.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:50 AM   #42
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