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Old 12-01-2011, 09:20 AM   #421
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how many 15 year old kids do we have as members on this forum?

bunch of ricer whiners "i want all these cool little tid bits, but i don't want to pay over 20k for it."
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:29 AM   #422
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The problem here that got that other guy angry wasnt people wanting more.

Its the whining and complaing for more they dont want to pay for

Im willing to bet 60 percent of the complainers cant even fork out the estimated 22k of the Current FRS

So why bother complaining.. its getting positive reception on all mainstream blogs too. It will sell..


Now to those that couldafford it and want that more get your brz and mod away i you want it to look like an 86, even if the brz looks good the way it is.
I agree that Scion screams toned down affordable, do it your way after purchase. It screams $20-21k. Which would be $4k less than Subaru, I'll admit that as much as I love the Subaru brand and the front end of the BRZ, if Scion can put that car pictured on the showroom for 20xxx I would seriously consider it over Subaru. I already have vehicles in my stable that are luxury or have lots of options.
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:35 AM   #423
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how many 15 year old kids do we have as members on this forum?

bunch of ricer whiners "i want all these cool little tid bits, but i don't want to pay over 20k for it."
I don't get it either .. seems most are drooling waiting to mod the hell out of the car anyway. What's the point of paying for, then chucking expensive OEM parts, simply to replace with even more expensive aftermarket parts?

Start with the basic, cheap car, then at least others will know when it's been modded and can be appreciated and ... money will be saved, to be allocated for more and better mods..

The only OEM mod I REALLY wanted from someone was MORE power ... that's worth some $$$... but didn't happen.
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My 2.5c

- Radio looks as from Chrylser - delete it - who listens to crappy radio anyways?
- Liking simple HAVC controls - GT86 HU was 90's revisited IMO w/red digi displays.
- Dual climate controls? - Give me a break - 2 peps barely fit side by side in the car.
- As always, gauges? Where tahell are the gauges? Ans: IDIOT's lites & Y/N dials!
- No stupid PBS - loving the analog - stick the key in the hole start idea - how retro!
- Nice! - No ugly fender inserts. Who came up w/dumb idea on new cars anyway?
- Nice fender emblem and a vent? - simple, elegant, best of the 3.
- No ugly Subaru/Mazda style front bar - yea! Lic plate ruin the look.
- Easy to mod to brake ducts lower fascia.
- Best taillights! Just add LED bulbs everywhere for those edisons.
- Mono textured dash hides the 'cheapie and obvious' air bag panels of others.
- Give me steelies - as w/others, guess they got a special deal on ug wheels!
- Backseat screams 'dirt cheap' - but really it's only a flat floor shelf anyway.
- Emerg brake on my side - in the way - should be on pass side - dumb.
- Make mine $19,999 and I'm good.
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I'd like to add the Ebrake on driverside is good for drifters or people who want the car to turn in better.
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how many 15 year old kids do we have as members on this forum?

bunch of ricer whiners "i want all these cool little tid bits, but i don't want to pay over 20k for it."
They won't buy anything... for now.
Once the market starts having a decent amount of used BRZs, they'll start coming out and ragging on FR-S owners as if they drive Ferraris in comparison.

But that won't happen for a long while.
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:41 AM   #426
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Last night I was highly infuriated and bothered by how Scion toned down the interior; the exterior is fine and the only thing I'd actually want added - fogs - I can do myself with elbow grease, time, and a couple of Pepsis in my own driveway.

This morning, after sleeping on it and ruminating about how the lesser quality interior some more, I don't think it's that bad at all. Also, if this is more stripped than the 2689lb Subaru then I'm happy with that. In fact, I think it's great for two reasons:

1) HVAC/Dash/Radio can all be procured elsewhere. Junk yards, Euro/Japanese model parts delears, and most of all - we can do that shit ourselves. In the 6th Gen community we have added a ton of JDM/EDM features Toyota USA saw fit to omit. Sure, it takes time and a little extra money but if Scion prices it low then you're only using money you initially saved. That's a win.

2) Price. If stripping the interior will place this car at 24k OTD (in NC at least) or base MSRP at or around 22k then all I have to say to Scion is:

THANK YOU!

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Old 12-01-2011, 09:43 AM   #427
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Highly disappointing interior

I am so disappointed and discouraged now by looking at the interior pictures. The interior pics of the Toyota version are soo much better looking. The toggle switches for climate controls, the push start button, and the overall quality looked better. This US version is absolutely watered down. I was really hyped up about this cars interior and overall build quality but it saddens me to see Scion FR-S stoop low like this. Don't get me wrong I still think the car will be great in terms of driving experience but I can't stop thinking of how much more enjoyable it could of been with the same interior (and LED lights) as Japans version .

If Subaru looks better interior-wise, then a Subie it is for me!
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Early buyers will be people who don't need to carry others and have enough cash to blow $400 monthly payment on a car just for themselves.
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:50 AM   #429
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They won't buy anything... for now.
Once the market starts having a decent amount of used BRZs, they'll start coming out and ragging on FR-S owners as if they drive Ferraris in comparison.

But that won't happen for a long while.
This is inevitable. Its sad but true. I cant stop laughing though on how true this is.
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If that really is a greddy exhaust on there, then there should be aftermarket parts available for this right away!
I hope that's the case. After seeing that stock muffler I'm compelled to go full cat back right from the start. I hope that greddy is avaliable around the time of launch. I hear good things from them.
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Part of the reason, if not the main reason, I think the base FR-S is stripped, is if it came with the JDM amenities, it would be priced higher and pushed up at a higher, more competitive price bracket here in the USDM market. If they price it on the lower $20-$23k bracket, the competition is easier, performance wise.

I'm thinking the FR-S will be in the $20k-$23k bracket, and the BRZ will be in the $24-$28k bracket, ala RX-8 bracket.

Now if you've got money to blow, a couple grand is worth it for the nicer interior amenities. I'll admit, I drive a Civic, which starts at $16k base, but mine is $22k, because it is an EX-L 4dr. It's hella nice and feels great inside, but the price jump is that high.

Think about it folks. Imagine $1k-$4k (presumably the BRZ difference) in $20 bills, laid out in front of you, in a suit case. Personally count them one by one. Now look at the amenities in the JDM 86. If you'd seriously fork over all that money for that (LED headlights, fogs, oh-so-fancy digital climate controls) instead of mods you'd do yourself (be it interior or actual performance mods), then by all means, get a BRZ. If not, appreciate the [assumed] savings on the FR-S and spend that savings on mods to tailor it to your own liking.

If you aren't willing to pay up at all for anything (be it a BRZ or FR-S with full options), well tough luck.
Get real people.
$20k with those amenities?
I guess you're also forgetting to complain about no AWD, no turbo, 300HP, 2000lbs curb weight, etc. What next, it doesn't give you eternal life?

Geeze. It's like a lot of you have never shopped/researched for a car.
It's almost like youtube comments.
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Imagine $1k-$4k (presumably the BRZ difference) in $20 bills, laid out in front of you, in a suit case.
You're looking at 100-200 $20 bills. They would fit in a money clip. It'd actually be a surprisingly small stack of money...
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:10 AM   #433
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The only 3 things that bothered me alot and I cannot survive without are:

1. No heated seats (I pray it is an option)
2. No Fog Lights
3. NO HIDS!


what i dislike but can do without:

-Push button Start
- no dual climate control
-that UGLY radio!
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