Questions and Discussion on Vortech Supercharging Systems

[sw20kosh]

I am personally waiting to see more data on the wastegated option. This looks very promising for my vehicle as it is daily driver 90% of the time and track avenger 10% of the time.

The waste gate (or bleed valve) will allow this scenario for example:

1. Install 15 psi pulley kit

2. Tune for 15 psi on 93-95 octane or 100 octane (whatever is in your budget)

3. Set the wastegate to hold 10 psi

4. Re-tune for 91 crap gas

5. For daily driving cruise around on 10 psi 91 octane tune

6. When at the track, add the appropriate amount of 100 octane, switch maps, and reset the wastegate to hold 15 psi. (You can do this by a boost controller or for the bleeder valve you can just adjust the screw)

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Are we talking tires? Heck when I go wheeling with my truck in snow I'm down to 8psi
I think someone is a bit confused..we're talking boost

I was just used my 4/1 token to be an idiot. Actually thats everyday.

Originally Posted by tha7osavage

this has probably been answered countless times, but what is the optimal setup for the vortech blower if i were strictly using my car as a daily driver. is it as easy as install + tune?

Yes if you choose a Vortech kit direct it comes with their tune. Install parts and flash.

If you choose a tuner kit, same deal install parts and load their flash. And then do follow up data logging using your laptop, supplied software and email the tuner your data log and they will adjust the tune if needed.

Or you can choose a tuner kit, get the Ecutech gear needed to tune and work with someone to make their own flash. (Lot more work)

[tha7osavage]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I am personally waiting to see more data on the wastegated option. This looks very promising for my vehicle as it is daily driver 90% of the time and track avenger 10% of the time.

The waste gate (or bleed valve) will allow this scenario for example:

1. Install 15 psi pulley kit

2. Tune for 15 psi on 93-95 octane or 100 octane (whatever is in your budget)

3. Set the wastegate to hold 10 psi

4. Re-tune for 91 crap gas

5. For daily driving cruise around on 10 psi 91 octane tune

6. When at the track, add the appropriate amount of 100 octane, switch maps, and reset the wastegate to hold 15 psi. (You can do this by a boost controller or for the bleeder valve you can just adjust the screw)

Originally Posted by Dezoris

I was just used my 4/1 token to be an idiot. Actually thats everyday.



Yes if you choose a Vortech kit direct it comes with their tune. Install parts and flash.

If you choose a tuner kit, same deal install parts and load their flash. And then do follow up data logging using your laptop, supplied software and email the tuner your data log and they will adjust the tune if needed.

Or you can choose a tuner kit, get the Ecutech gear needed to tune and work with someone to make their own flash. (Lot more work)

Thanks for the feedback fellas.

Makes sense. I used to have a wrx so I was used to already having the turbo, and dealing with all of the maintenence. I guess what i'm really asking is, will I be able to drive my car with the vortech setup without having to worry about any serious issues down the road? granted that I don't abuse the car. I've seen a lot of people upgrade their pulley with the vortech install, but should I be worried about the clutch or anything else?

[Huehuecoyotl]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I am personally waiting to see more data on the wastegated option. This looks very promising for my vehicle as it is daily driver 90% of the time and track avenger 10% of the time.

The waste gate (or bleed valve) will allow this scenario for example:

1. Install 15 psi pulley kit

2. Tune for 15 psi on 93-95 octane or 100 octane (whatever is in your budget)

3. Set the wastegate to hold 10 psi

4. Re-tune for 91 crap gas

5. For daily driving cruise around on 10 psi 91 octane tune

6. When at the track, add the appropriate amount of 100 octane, switch maps, and reset the wastegate to hold 15 psi. (You can do this by a boost controller or for the bleeder valve you can just adjust the screw)

sit tight...

[sw20kosh]

Would like to see a comment on this from vortech for us track junkies:

Tuner Kits and Supercharger Options

Tuner kits are the same as complete systems except without the fuel system upgrades or ECM reprogramming. This allows for custom tuning and fuel modifications that the custom tuner or racer may prefer. Vortech has supercharger options for various types of racing or boost level. For continued use, such as road racing, the V-2 series superchargers share the engine's oiling system. This approach is more suitable for continued boost conditions and allows for the addition of an oil cooler or filter. Call the Vortech Tech Line for complete information on the many upgrades and options available.

Source: http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/page.php?id=30120

Would a V2 unit bolt in to the existing kit or would we have to wait till you produced a V2 kit?

[Brian@Vortech]

Originally Posted by tha7osavage

this has probably been answered countless times, but what is the optimal setup for the Vortech blower if i were strictly using my car as a daily driver. is it as easy as install + tune?

Sure, or just buy the complete system that includes our production tune. Both are viable options.

Originally Posted by tha7osavage

I guess what i'm really asking is, will I be able to drive my car with the vortech setup without having to worry about any serious issues down the road? granted that I don't abuse the car. I've seen a lot of people upgrade their pulley with the vortech install, but should I be worried about the clutch or anything else?

Depends on the output level you set it at, but if we are talking the 9psi out-of-the-box setup with our production tune or another safe tune, you should be good to go without any issues whatsoever.

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Would like to see a comment on this from vortech for us track junkies:

Tuner kits are the same as complete systems except without the fuel system upgrades or ECM reprogramming. This allows for custom tuning and fuel modifications that the custom tuner or racer may prefer. Vortech has supercharger options for various types of racing or boost level. For continued use, such as road racing, the V-2 series superchargers share the engine's oiling system. This approach is more suitable for continued boost conditions and allows for the addition of an oil cooler or filter. Call the Vortech Tech Line for complete information on the many upgrades and options available.

Source: http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/page.php?id=30120

Would a V2 unit bolt in to the existing kit or would we have to wait till you produced a V2 kit?

This statement is geared more towards repeated, competition level track use, and not the weekend, open track club racer. The V-3 is well suited for street and casual track use. For those considering competition level applications, contact our sales department and we should be able to guide you in the right direction to get you dialed in properly.

[tha7osavage]

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech

Sure, or just buy the complete system that includes our production tune. Both are viable options.



Depends on the output level you set it at, but if we are talking the 9psi out-of-the-box setup with our production tune or another safe tune, you should be good to go without any issues whatsoever.

Good to know! this makes my decision for boosting options much easier

[2forme]

I have an interesting question, for those who swapped from the old design to new, is a retune necessary? If not, is it safe to drive on the old tune until a retune is able to be had?

[Brian@Vortech]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I have an interesting question, for those who swapped from the old design to new, is a retune necessary? If not, is it safe to drive on the old tune until a retune is able to be had?

Chances are that an updated tune is necessary, but in working with Perrin and Visconti on the upgrade, they both had the product in hand ahead of time. Therefore, upgrade tunes were already available on the day of release.

[ft_sjo]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

@Brian@Vortech

Were there design issues which prohibited the retention of the OE washer fluid bottle? Lots of other FI conversions seem to retain it with some more creative pipework.

I for one value the large capacity of the OE resevoir and would prefer not to lose it.

Are there any intentions from Vortech to improve this situation?

Thanks

Bump @Brian@Vortech

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

Bump @Brian@Vortech

You don't lose the washer reservoir, its relocated and the filler neck is slightly modified.

Page 20 of the install document:

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...20-010v1.0.pdf

[ft_sjo]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

You don't lose the washer reservoir, its relocated and the filler neck is slightly modified.

Page 20 of the install document:

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...20-010v1.0.pdf

I'd try reading what you just referred me too.

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

I'd try reading what you just referred me too.

Ahhh, sorry. You want to use the stock reservoir. I thought you were under the impression you lost the reservoir entirely.

[Brian@Vortech]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

@Brian@Vortech

Were there design issues which prohibited the retention of the OE washer fluid bottle? Lots of other FI conversions seem to retain it with some more creative pipework.

I for one value the large capacity of the OE resevoir and would prefer not to lose it.

Are there any intentions from Vortech to improve this situation?

Thanks

Can't imagine what you'd need that insanely large reservoir for...I've seen apartments smaller than that thing!

An optimized air pathway in our system required the factory reservoir to be removed. When people started requesting a replacement reservoir, we went the extra mile and designed and included a replacement bottle arrangement (and we didn't even raise the price!).