Hankook RS3s = too much body roll. Suggestions?

[mtsui]

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

when I finally make it out to buttonwillow and those other great tracks in cali, I want y'all to show me the lines!

April 14!!! Anyone is going!?

[RAWR BRZ]

Originally Posted by WillRacer1jz

Yup mid 1:43's it was fun apexing turn 8 at 116mph with a good amount of sideslip on all four tires :-)

Too scary for me lol

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

when I finally make it out to buttonwillow and those other great tracks in cali, I want y'all to show me the lines!

Youll like the tracks down here, you can really "push" your car because if you go 2 or even 4 wheels off it is mostly dirt and desert, no walls or anything to really hit.

Originally Posted by mtsui

April 14!!! Anyone is going!?

I am going! button willow right? with speed ventures?

[Sam Strano]

First, you have to figure out if what you are feeling is the amount of roll, or the the roll being generated too quickly. These are not the same thing.

This car doesn't roll a ton. I'm typically a fan of big front bars on a lot of cars (Camaro, Mustang, Corvette to name 3). This car isn't those, so where on those cars I make various bars ranging from 33.3mm to solid 35's, for this car I felt a much smaller increase was correct due to the low Cg. The bar will cut out some amount of roll, the car will stay more flat, and with no other changes the response will change because the car just won't roll as much.

I'm glad to see that others here running my bar are so happy with it. I was shooting for balance and lightness.

Now, here's where things get a bit more complicated. Dampers change the roll rate, but not the amount of roll. However, it's my guess you want to upgrade those dampers. It's very common for folks to put on better dampers and then say "my doesn't roll anymore". Well, that's not true, but the difference in response (quicker) and the roll rate (slower) it will feel like the car is rolling less.

To sum this up: Springs and bars will both cut roll amounts. Dampers slow roll rates. All 3 will make the car feel more responsive. The springs will cause a firmer ride. The bar won't. The dampers will make the car feel more planted. Adjustable dampers (good ones) allow you to alter how quickly each end of the car responds/reacts, and how it feels.

The stock dampers aren't so hot. You don't need to go all the way to Coil-overs. You could slap some Koni's on there (on sale fwiw), maybe springs, maybe a bar, maybe just dampers.... Each part has it's job to do, but there is some overlap in how they work too. So you have to watch what springs, with what bars, and with what dampers.

A big part of what I do with my shop is try and help folks figure out what parts, or combination of parts will work for them. I don't do one size fits all kind of setups, because folks aren't all the same. If you want to give me a ring I'll do my best to help. Fair warning, I do this a lot, all day and every day. So I've typically got a long list of call backs and sometimes it might take a day or two for me to return the call, but I will and I think you'll find it worth the time.