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Old 04-02-2013, 08:45 PM   #29
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I've seen cars end up in the woods for driving the speed limit in the highway and just simply slipping off gravel that wasn't post to be on the road.

There so many things that could go wrong at any given moment, the fact that it doesn't by it self is a miracle.
Many things can go wrong, which is why you can take many steps to mitigate those risks.

Safe speed =/= speed limit in a lot of cases. It's whatever's safe for the driving conditions. I see people barreling 65mph down the freeway in the fog with 10-feet of visibility--that's suicide, speed limit or not. If there's enough gravel to send off into a tree and you don't see it in time to react, chances are you're going to fast irrespective of the posted limit.

A dip in the road upsetting the chassis, or a crest that unloads the rear tires--those are things that can countered--namely, by slowing down. Not trying to be critical, just that most accidents--even if caused by inclement circumstance--can be avoided.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:53 PM   #30
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So you're telling me that driving at a speed that hinders your ability to judge the road surface is safe?
No, i'm telling you shit happens.

That's it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:01 PM   #31
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Alright. No one has said it yet.

That will buff out.

Glad you are alright OP. I actually want to see more pics of the car. Impressive safety.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:08 PM   #32
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No, i'm telling you shit happens.

That's it.
Spot on! I've seen oil on the road at the end of a freeway offramp going into an off cambered turn.

Everyone including old grannies in corollas were sliding all over the place or spinning out.

The first rain after a dry spell causes a lot of oil and residue to float up out of the road and makes for hazardous conditions. Couple this with an off bump and pretty pedestrian driving can quickly turn to shit.
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What I mean by normal driving is that I wasn't over reving the engine, I wasn't trying to show off, I wasn't trying to drift, or anything silly. Just casually driving along a road like most of us would do on any given day.

I went back the next day and observed the car's driving over the same section of road. There is a dip in the road which upsets most of the cars and appears to send the cars slightly outwards.

BTW, stock Michelin Premacy HP tyres, stock suspension, stock everything and it was one of the rare rains we have had after a long dry summer.
The key as to why this happened is in his post..."it was one of the rare rains we have had after a long dry summer"

In this situation all the oils on the road suddenly come to the surface and the road becomes like ice. Hit a dip or suddenly brake, and off the road you go!

If it hasn't rained for a while and it does, drive like you are in a snow storm..cut the speed and no quick changes.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:32 PM   #34
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don't listen to the ppl saying you must've been driving erratically. shiz happens to the best of us.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:54 PM   #36
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Dude right.

Glad you are ok though. Story to tell.
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The sad thing is, I wasn't even trying to go fast or drift or anything stupid, if I was, then I would be able to accept what happened. I was just driving normally heading home.
Huh... I never knew that the VSC would allow your car to spin around when youre driving normally. Because when I drive normally I never spin around, even during rain when I semi push it hard on an empty parking lot.

It's ok, we know you cant admit your wrongdoings on the internet because people are watching. But hope you take this as a lesson and dont be stupid again. At least youre ok and didnt kill your passenger!
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Spot on!...The first rain after a dry spell causes a lot of oil and residue to float up out of the road and makes for hazardous conditions. Couple this with an off bump and pretty pedestrian driving can quickly turn to shit.
This! The first bit of rain after a dry spell can make for road conditions that rival the infamous "black ice".
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I just wanted to point this out... you dont start a thread telling everyone about how skillful you are and your racing history only to finish it with "I was driving normally down some back roads and totaled my car"

Just sayin...

Anyways sorry about your 86... I would cry if it was mine, glad to know how safe these cars are tho. Dont think theres been any serious injuries in all the totalled 86s ive seen.

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Spot on! I've seen oil on the road at the end of a freeway offramp going into an off cambered turn.

Everyone including old grannies in corollas were sliding all over the place or spinning out.

The first rain after a dry spell causes a lot of oil and residue to float up out of the road and makes for hazardous conditions. Couple this with an off bump and pretty pedestrian driving can quickly turn to shit.
We have this badly in AZ on the highways. Once monsoon season hits, there are accidents all the time on the freeway, shit happens doesn't matter how focused you are or what not! Why don't you guys become humans and not debate on how the OP was driving. If he says he wasn't going all crazy and what not then I believe him. I see this shit happen all the time in the canyons throughout AZ. If peeps don't understand then they never drive thru a real canyon road, plain and simple! They don't have road cleaners every night cleaning the canyon roads.....
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How did you manage to flip the tC upside down?
People assume that flipping a car over requires excessive speed and a major blunder. I have seen a car flip at walking speed, back over front, when clipped by a truck and catching the curb on the opposite side. Things happen.
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I just wanted to point this out... you dont start a thread telling everyone about how skillful you are and your racing history only to finish it with "I was driving normally down some back roads and totaled my car"
Why's that?

Might make people think.
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