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JP · 04-01-2013, 06:35 PM

I've seen two in Australia alone, one turbo & one NA. The turbo setup snapped the rod on decel while slowing down to pull into the owners street, the NA one snapped through normal acceleration at around 6000rpm. Both ended up with the typical block windows

driftartist · 04-01-2013, 06:35 PM

yeah thats why im staying n/a less headache and im under warr

mad_sb · 04-01-2013, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frs300

it was connected on the side....that nipple was venting to atmosphere

Could be ok, in that configuration the pressure source should be before the throttle plate, taking the source straight off the compressor outlet would be the best bet:

http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/appl...ial.php?wg=F41

FA20Club.com · 04-01-2013, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Could be ok, in that configuration the pressure source should be before the throttle plate, taking the source straight off the compressor outlet would be the best bet:

http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/appl...ial.php?wg=F41

yup thats why we tap all the garrett covers unlike the precision that come with a fitting already.

Frs300 · 04-01-2013, 09:23 PM

Thank you fa20club!!!!!

cant wait to get the car back

akuhei · 04-01-2013, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frs300

Thank you fa20club!!!!!

cant wait to get the car back

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Frs300 · 04-01-2013, 09:34 PM

im sending it to them

nelsmar · 04-01-2013, 10:03 PM

I could have missed it but did anyone mention if the correct fuel injectors were installed? I had this happen once... Took me a number of pulls to figure out why i was maxing my injector cycle so quickly. It took me about a week before i finally yanked the injectors and realized the 550cc i thought i had were 275's. ( i was messing with the pump, lines, filter, fuel fail...). I felt pretty stupid that i didn't verify before installing. Luckily though the engine didnt go out from it, throttle was cut the moment it started leaning out.

Inline6 · 04-01-2013, 10:22 PM

The main problem here is that no safeguards were in place. No data logging, no wideband, no boost gauge(which is never ok on forced induction applications), running on a basemap, and pushing the car too hard before its ready.

Not only will you have no idea what the car is doing but you will also have no idea of how to prove what went wrong.

On a High CR motor you have to be extra cautious,like baby steps. Losing traction in first and shifting into second doesn't exact sound like you were taking it easy before you knew it was safe to push it.

I hate it for you ,but if you start mixing boost and high compression then you damn sure better make sure everything is perfect before blasting on it.

Archetype · 04-01-2013, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inline6

The main problem here is that no safeguards were in place. No data logging, no wideband, no boost gauge(which is never ok on forced induction applications), running on a basemap, and pushing the car too hard before its ready.

Not only will you have no idea what the car is doing but you will also have no idea of how to prove what went wrong.

On a High CR motor you have to be extra cautious,like baby steps. Losing traction in first and shifting into second doesn't exact sound like you were taking it easy before you knew it was safe to push it.

I hate it for you ,but if you start mixing boost and high compression then you damn sure better make sure everything is perfect before blasting on it.

Amen

Frs300 · 04-01-2013, 10:36 PM

nobody mentioned it but they were correct ones

i had drove it around for almost 100 miles before i got on it good. but yes you are correct in a way it is my fault for not having my failsafe installed

Noob4Life · 04-01-2013, 10:37 PM

So are we saying running a basemap is not okay? I plan on going with an fa20 club setup and their basemap. I planned on running just the basemap because I dont know of any tuners in my area. I live in a crappy town

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industrial · 04-01-2013, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noob4Life

So are we saying running a basemap is not okay? I plan on going with an fa20 club setup and their basemap. I planned on running just the basemap because I dont know of any tuners in my area. I live in a crappy town

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I think if you are going to pay $5000 (+$ for install) for a turbo kit on your $27000 car you should be able to pony up another $200 for a custom tune... I think the point of the base map is so you can drive the car safely after install to get tuned. I'm sure there is a decent tuner near you. I've driven to San Fransisco from LA to get tuned before.

Frs300 · 04-01-2013, 10:44 PM

basemap is fine just dont do what i did and hold off on installing a boost gauge of some sort. install it from the get go..hell i had my wideband/failsafe and shit in the back seat in the box so its not like i didnt have one.

me being lazy turned into almost 10K $$$$$$

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Noob4Life 86 Noob Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Firestorm FR-S Location: Yuba City, CA Posts: 596 Thanks: 153 Thanked 189 Times in 97 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So are we saying running a basemap is not okay? I plan on going with an fa20 club setup and their basemap. I planned on running just the basemap because I dont know of any tuners in my area. I live in a crappy town Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2 __________________

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04-01-2013, 06:35 PM	#155
JP Backyard Fabricator Join Date: May 2012 Drives: JZX83, SF5 GT, ZZE82 turbo Location: Australia Posts: 303 Thanks: 47 Thanked 166 Times in 83 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've seen two in Australia alone, one turbo & one NA. The turbo setup snapped the rod on decel while slowing down to pull into the owners street, the NA one snapped through normal acceleration at around 6000rpm. Both ended up with the typical block windows

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driftartist Kurenai Samurai Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Red and manual Location: east bay,ca Posts: 794 Thanks: 186 Thanked 327 Times in 203 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	yeah thats why im staying n/a less headache and im under warr

04-01-2013, 09:23 PM	#159
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Thank you fa20club!!!!! cant wait to get the car back

04-01-2013, 09:34 PM	#161
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	im sending it to them

04-01-2013, 10:22 PM	#163
Inline6 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Single Turbo Supra Location: Down South Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The main problem here is that no safeguards were in place. No data logging, no wideband, no boost gauge(which is never ok on forced induction applications), running on a basemap, and pushing the car too hard before its ready. Not only will you have no idea what the car is doing but you will also have no idea of how to prove what went wrong. On a High CR motor you have to be extra cautious,like baby steps. Losing traction in first and shifting into second doesn't exact sound like you were taking it easy before you knew it was safe to push it. I hate it for you ,but if you start mixing boost and high compression then you damn sure better make sure everything is perfect before blasting on it.

04-01-2013, 10:36 PM	#165
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	nobody mentioned it but they were correct ones i had drove it around for almost 100 miles before i got on it good. but yes you are correct in a way it is my fault for not having my failsafe installed

04-01-2013, 10:44 PM	#168
Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	basemap is fine just dont do what i did and hold off on installing a boost gauge of some sort. install it from the get go..hell i had my wideband/failsafe and shit in the back seat in the box so its not like i didnt have one. me being lazy turned into almost 10K $$$$$$

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