NorCal (Bay Area) DRIVE Chat Thread

[PMok]

LOL have you guys heard of the little recorder dongle thing that Progressive Ins sends you, it records your throttle, brake inputs and measures G forces to see if you are a "good" or "safe" driver... then depending on what it measures it can give you a rate discount. I bet if I did that it would record my driving, and then say "no discount"! LOL

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...s_with_my_flo/

[bignrichlll]

[QUOTE=PMok;828295]LOL have you guys heard of the little recorder dongle thing that Progressive Ins sends you, it records your throttle, brake inputs and measures G forces to see if you are a "good" or "safe" driver... then depending on what it measures it can give you a rate discount. I bet if I did that it would record my driving, and then say "no discount"! LOL

Im pretty sure mine would say something a little more like... Oh HELL NO!!!

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by PMok

LOL have you guys heard of the little recorder dongle thing that Progressive Ins sends you, it records your throttle, brake inputs and measures G forces to see if you are a "good" or "safe" driver... then depending on what it measures it can give you a rate discount. I bet if I did that it would record my driving, and then say "no discount"! LOL

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...s_with_my_flo/

Never liked those things or any "black box" recorders. Heard something on NPR about these things being planned to be mandatory (even though most cars already have them). There's also this petition to make this data available to anyone. On one hand, that is good, engineers like to have all that data they can get to continually improve and optimize our cars. Unfortunately, insurance companies want that data too to better put the blame on your or the other party. Fortunately, there's a counter petition stating that that is private information. End of rant....

[MyRx]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Never liked those things or any "black box" recorders. Heard something on NPR about these things being planned to be mandatory (even though most cars already have them). There's also this petition to make this data available to anyone. On one hand, that is good, engineers like to have all that data they can get to continually improve and optimize our cars. Unfortunately, insurance companies want that data too to better put the blame on your or the other party. Fortunately, there's a counter petition stating that that is private information. End of rant....

I've paid my 2nd amendment dues for the next 3 yrs, do I have to pay my anti-ins policy too? End of rant also...

[MyRx]

Mines Road was pretty empty this morning. Quite sluggish as the same tactic of attack on Redwood was used, low rear tire pressure. Mines, being a smoother and even pavement, really didn't let the car transition easily. Refilled the rear tires and it was back to its happy place. I guess the bumpier Redwood/PH keeps the car guessing that even with low pressure, it's always on its toes. Sporadic drive, test couple theories. Thanks for reading.

[PMok]

Originally Posted by MyRx

Mines Road was pretty empty this morning. Quite sluggish as the same tactic of attack on Redwood was used, low rear tire pressure. Mines, being a smoother and even pavement, really didn't let the car transition easily. Refilled the rear tires and it was back to its happy place. I guess the bumpier Redwood/PH keeps the car guessing that even with low pressure, it's always on its toes. Sporadic drive, test couple theories. Thanks for reading.

damn weatherman, always wrong... still no rain in the East Bay! If I had known it was going to stay dry I would have got up early and done a drive too.

[MyRx]

Originally Posted by PMok

damn weatherman, always wrong... still no rain in the East Bay! If I had known it was going to stay dry I would have got up early and done a drive too.

Could always use a partner in crime

Sprung out of bed, looked out the window, and had a Phineas and Ferb moment. Yeah, my drives could boring without an agenda, so I made another one up this morning and threw the tire pump and pressure gauge in the car.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by MyRx

Could always use a partner in crime

Sprung out of bed, looked out the window, and had a Phineas and Ferb moment. Yeah, my drives could boring without an agenda, so I made another one up this morning and threw the tire pump and pressure gauge in the car.

How is it so far? Been playing around with higher pressures, been pretty happy with the response at 40 psi, then airing it back down to the regular 35 on the way home for comfort.

[PMok]

oddly i seem to like the lower pressure. At the Hwy 1 drive someone pointed out my tires looked a little low, but to me the car felt fine. So this week I checked and sure enough it was down to about 26. I pumped them back up to around 33 and now the car feels skittish and understeery to me. I guess I may have to play around with front/rear variance. Is 35psi the recommended pressure? Shame on me for not knowing...

[MyRx]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

How is it so far? Been playing around with higher pressures, been pretty happy with the response at 40 psi, then airing it back down to the regular 35 on the way home for comfort.

Upper 30s and 40s, the FRS is tail happy. Perhaps your springs are playing a role. My FRS likes mid 30s, even lower with a load and tank of gas.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by PMok

oddly i seem to like the lower pressure. At the Hwy 1 drive someone pointed out my tires looked a little low, but to me the car felt fine. So this week I checked and sure enough it was down to about 26. I pumped them back up to around 33 and now the car feels skittish and understeery to me. I guess I may have to play around with front/rear variance. Is 35psi the recommended pressure? Shame on me for not knowing...

From autox, I've always thought the higher pressure/stiffer tire gave better feel/response from less sidewall roll and deflection. Lower pressures make for good grip with the larger foot print, but that's just all theory and can be very different in practice.

Hmmm, have not thought about playing between front and rear, that would be an interesting experiment, thanks

Yeah, 35 psi is the recommended (cold) pressure (posted on the door).

Originally Posted by MyRx

Upper 30s and 40s, the FRS is tail happy. Perhaps your springs are playing a role. My FRS likes mid 30s, even lower with a load and tank of gas.

Agreed, maybe that's why I like the higher pressures since the brz is setup for more understeer. Just got back from dirtfish, so I'm all pumped with all this theory talk

[MyRx]

My ride alongs in autox resulted in removing air from the tires. And he got faster each time. I'm merely looking for less drifting and more rear grip on our backroads, the fronts at normal op range is fine as these cars are responsive with the wheel and even slows down when you steer in the turn. Keeping on the gas in the sweepers and throttle-ing thru gives a weird 'sliding' sensation. Get use to that sliding affect and these cars are marvelous. You fight against what the car is doing and you're gonna have a bad day. I'm learning more and more about these tires. Let's got coffee and talk more about it...

[MyRx]

So back on the right thread. Weather permitting, BFF and I are driving CV - Oakland on Thurs during lunch. Filipino restaurant in CV if time permits, before or after??

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by MyRx

So back on the right thread. Weather permitting, BFF and I are driving CV - Oakland on Thurs during lunch. Filipino restaurant in CV if time permits, before or after??

If we're starting at CV then I guess we could do it before, but I dont mind either way, we could start at golflinks by o-town zoo and work our way towards CV also.