Trolling

[2forme]

Originally Posted by White64Goat

Dude..........you should have not put your yearbook picture in here!

hahaha I'll give you 1 internetz if you actually know where he's from/who he is.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by 2forme

hahaha I'll give you 1 internetz if you actually know where he's from/who he is.

Mats Olle Göran Söderlund, aka Gunther, from Sweden.

Known for Touch me and of course Touch my tralala, the ding dong song..

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Mats Olle Göran Söderlund, aka Gunther, from Sweden.

Known for Touch me and of course Touch my tralala, the ding dong song..

Very impressive, Dave. +1 internetz for you.

[King Tut]

Dave's internetz impresses me.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Dave's internetz impresses me.

I cheated.. google related image search ftw.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I cheated.. google related image search ftw.

Don't lie, I bet his cd is in your car right now.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Not until I get on his kills list!

Umm why has this thread become a topic about rehashing my old hat kills and in such great detail? They're done. Dead. Hence, "kill." And, as this thread points out, "troll" is open to interpretation with no single, correct way to interpret it. You're entitled to believe what you want. It's MEANT to be silly/goofy/immature as indicated by my smiley/caps lock. It's MEANT to be controversial. But it also serves a purpose and has proven to be effective. I'll continue to believe what I want, thanks. When people question it, I gladly indulge what it is/why it's there (as I've done). That part is important to me. As far as what they think about it: IDGAF. It catches interest (as you and Dimman have shown). Positive or negative, that's EXACTLY what I want it to do!

[njccmd2002]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Umm why has this thread become a topic about rehashing my old hat kills and in such great detail? They're done. Dead. Hence, "kill." And, as this thread points out, "troll" is open to interpretation with no single, correct way to interpret it. You're entitled to believe what you want. It's MEANT to be silly/goofy/immature as indicated by my smiley/caps lock. It's MEANT to be controversial. But it also serves a purpose and has proven to be effective. I'll continue to believe what I want, thanks. When people question it, I gladly indulge what it is/why it's there (as I've done). That part is important to me. As far as what they think about it: IDGAF. It catches interest (as you and Dimman have shown). Positive or negative, that's EXACTLY what I want it to do!

Give it a break

[njccmd2002]

Or add me to the list you will never get everyone to agree with you. Opinions are like assjoles and you get the rest.

It's a known fact anyone can be a troll anytime. It's fun to see grown men get their panties in a wad. It adds flavor to conversations too as we'll. I troll sometimes, so what.

[njccmd2002]

btw has anyone seen the movie lucky # 7.......



Hahahah. Just kidding

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Let's take a quick trip down your kill list:

#1. The person you replied to was in a civilized conversation and postulated other ways to refer to products originating in a country and destined for that country or others. A way to get around the common Domestic Market names. You reply with the definition of what a domestic market is and make a picture. You did not kill a troll, nor was the OP or the guy you replied to trolling. They weren't being offensive either.

#2. You post a quote in reply to a rumor. No trolling, no offensive content, etc. Just another rumor we've all heard before. Quotes are great, but businesses change direction all the time so who knows if Subaru will ever put a turbocharged engine in at the factory. They might, it wouldn't be the first time a product team changed it's direction. Again, no trolling here either.

#3. Here you suggest any common man can *DEVELOP* (this is key) dry carbon bits that function aerodynamically. Sure, a common man might be able to INSTALL them, but the development of that car was led with a reportedly open budget. Assuming they used a wind tunnel to verify everything that was far from the inexpensive project you claimed it to be (by the standard of a common man). And once again, there was absolutely no trolling on the part of fatoni.

#4. Here I enjoyed that you didn't quote the first time it was posted, you know the one were he pointed out the fallacy of your argument. To get to the context you posted as proof that the 86 is better than the 458 Italia that it was ~.3 seconds faster around a single track. He replied stating a list of cars which are faster and similar in price to the 86, which you then added a higher burden of proof as a requirement (compared to what you did) to accept the same exact argument you wanted him and others to accept. While the part you quoted separately seems like a dumb comment, in context it was meant to say simply that price does not determine the worthiness of a sports car. The point he was making was obvious, you just decided to not quote the part that made it obvious. Once again though, no insults, no attacks, just reasonable and open conversation on an opinion. Once again, he wasn't trolling by any definition of the word.

#5. This wasn't trolling, but was inflammatory. That's why it was deleted by Hachi. He happened to have a very strong opinion about manuals. Based on sales, most 86 owners agree with him at this time at least. The auto vs manual conversations here get heated because of passion. I think passionate conversation is good. He wasn't trolling, even if he was being rude and abrasive.

#6. Once again, not trolling. I try to use the normal business "Reasonable Person Standard" to determine if someone is out of line. IMO I don't know many that would consider his post to be an attack or insult. He just took the short way of pointing out what I did in the long way above, which is that your kills list is laughable because none of them are "kills" and none of the people you are replying to are "trolls".

For clarification: Nowhere in my sig does it contain the word "troll." I thought about that when I named the list. Only "kill" is used. That describes the disproval of an opinion or fact by another fact. Others may see them as small/insignificant arguments. Fine. I am intentionally framing it to be bigger than it is to encourage people to be more mindful of how they conduct themselves. And I've noticed it is doing just that.

Now the word "TROLL" appears in my avatar. It may imply a connection to my sig. Or it may not. That's open to interpretation. I did this by design. The caps/smiley guise signifies it's not meant to be taken as seriously as it has been in this thread.

[Huehuecoyotl]

How can I get on your kill list?

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Don't lie, I bet his cd is in your car right now.

OK.. fine.. you caught me

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Umm why has this thread become a topic about rehashing my old hat kills and in such great detail? They're done. Dead. Hence, "kill." And, as this thread points out, "troll" is open to interpretation with no single, correct way to interpret it. You're entitled to believe what you want. It's MEANT to be silly/goofy/immature as indicated by my smiley/caps lock. It's MEANT to be controversial. But it also serves a purpose and has proven to be effective. I'll continue to believe what I want, thanks. When people question it, I gladly indulge what it is/why it's there (as I've done). That part is important to me. As far as what they think about it: IDGAF. It catches interest (as you and Dimman have shown). Positive or negative, that's EXACTLY what I want it to do!

Actually it's really not open to that much interpretation. There is a definition for a forum troll. It's not "someone who disagrees with you". Oh and my post that you replied to was obviously a joke.

Originally Posted by switchlanez

For clarification: Nowhere in my sig does it contain the word "troll." I thought about that when I named the list. Only "kill" is used. That describes the disproval of an opinion or fact by another fact. Others may see them as small/insignificant arguments. Fine. I am intentionally framing it to be bigger than it is to encourage people to be more mindful of how they conduct themselves. And I've noticed it is doing just that.

Now the word "TROLL" appears in my avatar. It may imply a connection to my sig. Or it may not. That's open to interpretation. I did this by design. The caps/smiley guise signifies it's not meant to be taken as seriously as it has been in this thread.

Allow me to quote your post earlier in this thread:

Originally Posted by switchlanez

I have trolls noted in my sig.

So did that refer to the "kill list", Moto-P, or yourself/your car? I assumed "kill list" but perhaps I guessed wrong.

So anytime we post a fact that counters another opinion or fact (and btw at least half of your "kills" were based on opinion not facts) we should all consider that a "kill"? The way your "kill list" comes off is as an attempt to further belittle those who you have included in your list by directing people to your "kill" posts. It appears to be an attempt to show how smart you are, and how dumb the person you are replying to is. That may not have been your intention, but that's how it appears from the outside. I think your sig is a clear reminder on how to conduct, or how not to conduct, yourself.

I'm probably about as anti-censorship of a mod as there is around here and I will continue to leave discussions as long as they don't start to attack/insult people (or groups of people), etc.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Allow me to quote your post earlier in this thread:


So did that refer to the "kill list", Moto-P, or yourself/your car? I assumed "kill list" but perhaps I guessed wrong.

So anytime we post a fact that counters another opinion or fact (and btw at least half of your "kills" were based on opinion not facts) we should all consider that a "kill"? The way your "kill list" comes off is as an attempt to further belittle those who you have included in your list by directing people to your "kill" posts. It appears to be an attempt to show how smart you are, and how dumb the person you are replying to is. That may not have been your intention, but that's how it appears from the outside. I think your sig is a clear reminder on how to conduct, or how not to conduct, yourself.

I'm probably about as anti-censorship of a mod as there is around here and I will continue to leave discussions as long as they don't start to attack/insult people (or groups of people), etc.

I said trolls were noted in the sig. Maybe there are. Maybe one of them is me. That's up to your interpretation. Trolling is not necessarily found in the discussions linked. Those members may have trolled elsewhere in the thread or elsewhere in the forum. And my kill just happens to be in a non-trolling argument. I said I have "trolls noted in my sig" not "troll posts noted in my sig."

The list is simply a mirror of the discussion that goes on in this forum. "Kill" is exactly that. Squashing by fact. Nothing more. Whatever extraneous negative connotations it may imply is all your interpretation. Your problem (only if you let it be); not mine.