FA20CLUB 4-1 Modular Header.....Turbo Manifold DYNO TESTED

[reeves]

Originally Posted by swift996

Sort of a simple question, but how much louder is the catted version with the rest of the exhaust OEM? Also, does this work with the OEM airbox? It's hard to see if it would.

Not the best video/recording.. but it was the only clip I took.. and the audio of the exhaust is fairly accurate in it.. http://s965.photobucket.com/user/pdx...024b6.mp4.html

If I come across anyone with a better recorder, I'll try to post more clips.. but I've said before, I'd rather spend money on mods than an expensive recorder.

I'd describe the sound similar to a good quiet aftermarket exhaust.. definitely a little louder than stock, but not by much.. and definitely not raspy.. unless you consider that clip (at the very END, driving away) on the raspy side. You hear how it sounds on WOT.. sound is so subjective, you can judge for yourself. It's not a boxer "rumble" either but I like the subtle aggressiveness of the sound now.

I had a resonated front pipe installed along with the header, so if you keep your stock front pipe (with the 2nd cat) it might even be quieter.

[swift996]

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

fits with every intake ive come across just fine its allot lower than what you think.

Ok, I saw in the dyno video. The one pic angle makes it look like it's a close fit.


EDIT- Do you offer thermal coating? (I saw you do w/ the turbo kit)
I see it on the website. How long of a delay would it take? I'm interested in the black thermal coating or are they ready to ship? Also, will it bolt to the OEM over-pipe? I'm ready to order, just want to confirm.

[FA20Club.com]

Originally Posted by swift996

Ok, I saw in the dyno video. The one pic angle makes it look like it's a close fit.


EDIT- Do you offer thermal coating? (I saw you do w/ the turbo kit)
I see it on the website. How long of a delay would it take? I'm interested in the black thermal coating or are they ready to ship? Also, will it bolt to the OEM over-pipe? I'm ready to order, just want to confirm.

coating will add another week tot he order. we are build some end of this week. just have to cut these PIA collectors for the headers and turbo kits we sold this past weekend. and they are time consuming LOL. i would never coat anything ahead of time just like our intake i coat them after the order is placed even when they are instock. fits the factory over pipe just fine. thats how we designed it so you can bolt it onto a stock car.

[FA20Club.com]

Originally Posted by reeves

Na it's got plenty of room.. in fact I'd say it's the exact opposite in terms of heating up.. the header works so much better [than stock] in moving air through the engine (and intake), once you get going, the intake cools down just fine.. it's always within 2-4 degrees of the ambient air temps when I'm driving (monitored with Torque Pro app). The harder you drive, the faster it cools down.. and stays cool!

this angle give a much better view of how far away this thing is from the intake tubes.

[swift996]

I just ordered mine!

[Mobius357]

Is the the cat metallic or ceramic core? And is the Cat warrantied?

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by fenton

Is a tune required with this header? I have Visconti stage 1, im very interested in these long tube headers. It seems like everyone is jumping on this after Nameless posted their results. I know FA20 club tuned a set of P&L long tube headers, are these the same(they sure look the same)?

Not to make this a pissing contest, but we had the P&L dynos up a week before Nameless posted their dynos.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=1022

VS

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...21&postcount=1

[FA20Club.com]

Originally Posted by Mobius357

Is the the cat metallic or ceramic core? And is the Cat warrantied?

Metal Core....50K warranty

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

Not to make this a pissing contest, but we had the P&L dynos up a week before Nameless posted their dynos.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=1022

VS

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...21&postcount=1

True. Nameless design is different than both of these though. Nameless dyno looks very different while p&l and this look.....identical.

Nameless posted teasers a couple weeks before if I remember correctly. Showing the vband connection and whatnot. Either way all these options are good for us

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[swift996]

Originally Posted by reeves

Not the best video/recording.. but it was the only clip I took.. and the audio of the exhaust is fairly accurate in it.. http://s965.photobucket.com/user/pdx...024b6.mp4.html

If I come across anyone with a better recorder, I'll try to post more clips.. but I've said before, I'd rather spend money on mods than an expensive recorder.

I'd describe the sound similar to a good quiet aftermarket exhaust.. definitely a little louder than stock, but not by much.. and definitely not raspy.. unless you consider that clip (at the very END, driving away) on the raspy side. You hear how it sounds on WOT.. sound is so subjective, you can judge for yourself. It's not a boxer "rumble" either but I like the subtle aggressiveness of the sound now.

I had a resonated front pipe installed along with the header, so if you keep your stock front pipe (with the 2nd cat) it might even be quieter.

Would you mind sharing your overpipe/front pipe setup/specs? I ordered the header and might want to do the same. The clip sounds great, exactly the type of sound I'd want.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

Not to make this a pissing contest, but we had the P&L dynos up a week before Nameless posted their dynos.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=1022

VS

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...21&postcount=1

This is what I'm referring to.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=703197

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[Mobius357]

Please! Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who.

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by fenton

This is what I'm referring to.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=703197

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Those photos show the 4-2-1 header and not the 4-1. The reason for the similarities between the fa20club and P@L headers is they are both designed with a front mounted turbo upgrade in mind, however the Vband placement is different for both products. For the Fa20club it's right after the merge, while the P&L is after the initial bend.

It looks with the placement of the Nameless Vband it was mainly so they could test 2.5" and 3" setups, letting them change the outlet to the overpipe. There is little functionality they can get out of a Vband located there.

[FA20Club.com]

I tried a 3" exhaust when i was NA after i did my first tune and the damn thing lost 9whp. i was able to retune and get it back but see any real gains. I only went 3" cause i was gonna build a turbo kit. the exhaust is still on my auto car thats part of the reason i dont test certain products on the auto anymore cause my baseline would be low.

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