Vortech Supercharging System Update - More boost, more POWER!

[Darryljr11]

Originally Posted by kinryu

just got my frs with the 9psi and this thing is a beast!! thank you vortech!!
the back of my head finally hits the headrest!!!!! lol
video coming up soon!

Im waiting lol

[Frostyman]

Well shit. I was really looking forward to that twin screw. But this is just too good. Innovate better do something really quick to keep my interest.

[Huehuecoyotl]

I've updated my 'Got car back from Vortech' thread, dont want to pollute here, but my post may be relevant to y'all, and todays news from Vortech...

[Huehuecoyotl]

Originally Posted by AZFA20

I know it has been mentioned several times already by others but I thought I would toss in my thoughts as well about the PnP harness for the MAF. It is those little things that really set something like this apart as a refined kit. I am a huge fan of clean easy PnP harnesses and that's even coming from someone who has had to build their fair share of harnesses and have no problems splicing however, PnP wins me every time!! Please include it

having owned some older cars that needed new injection wiring that all got soldered in, I'm in agreement that PnP convenience is nice and can appreciate where youre coming from, but if u have a physical, chemical connection between two wires, its alot more like one wire again, it wins for me, for connectivity for me for a connection thats so critical, high heat, and often low voltage also. I can see where the cheaper way may be the better way here.

[Adeets]

Rule of thumb, every connector is 1db loss.

[JP]

Toyota dont solder connections in their looms, everything is crimped. I avoid solder joints in my looms at all costs.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by Adeets

Rule of thumb, every connector is 1db loss.

What does that translate to in volts? Because that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me and I've been running wires and chasig electrical ghosts in aircraft for about 20 years. Solder joints is what we saw before modern gold plated crimp style pins and cannon plugs. Those work just fine for miles of wire on military planes...I'm sure it'd be fine for a low voltage Maf signal over a few feet.

[ft_sjo]

Originally Posted by JP

Toyota dont solder connections in their looms, everything is crimped. I avoid solder joints in my looms at all costs.

Exactly this. Solder joints are more likely to fail than crimped ones in the long term. This is why works race teams and manufacturers don't use them wherever possible.

Come on Vortech, sort out an extension harness, it's not rocket science. Just put a tender out to some local loom firms.

[FR-S Matt]

Just when I thought turbo was the solution I was going with... wow.

[Sportsguy83]

This is a legitimate question I have. I don't want to bash, don't want to throw dirt at the thread. I know some people like everything about Superchargers and like the kit just because it is a SC (and that's fine!!). Some people just like the SC whine too much, others hate Turbos. I can understand all of those!!! I COMPLETELY understand people who want or NEED CARB certification and understand their excitement.

Anyone that falls under the description above does not need to answer, I understand where you are coming from.

This questions is for people who can choose anyone of the options available (not limited to this options because of CARB). For all other people please see question below.

Honestly and genuinely I would like to know, why are you impressed with 249 WHP and 180 WTQ @ 9 psi (considering other kits are pushing more)?

Please not a flame war, not a TC vs. SC, I genuinely want to hear from you guys why are those numbers impressive and/or why would those numbers make you choose this kit over the other options.

[JP]

I think the power is realistic on normal fuel, more area under the curve would be nice but that would require more boost earler.

[solma]

@Sportsguy83

For me, the answer start with why I choose this car, to handle curve(I do lapping), wanted small light weight car. To be able to just have a little more power with reliability, meaning no down time at the track ajusting thing and not having to do special ajustement the day before lapping is what I am searching.

To have a bolton solution, at right price, that you do not have to think about it after install, that just give that little more torque in daily driving(I not missing any power on the track, fun factor wise) is perfect, still need to run on 91.

If I would want a powerhouse for the road(straitline, green light drag fun, I would have taken something with a big V8 and would be searching for high number.

I think its all about what kind of fun factor you want.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by solma

@Sportsguy83

For me, the answer start with why I choose this car, to handle curve(I do lapping), wanted small light weight car. To be able to just have a little more power with reliability, meaning no down time at the track ajusting thing and not having to do special ajustement the day before lapping is what I am searching.....

Thank you for your kind and respectful reply. This is exactly what I want to hear. It is a different and well understood point of view.

[Opposed]

@Sportsguy83

Do I think 240 whp at 9 psi is enough? To be honest, no. I am still torn between this and the Fullblown kit (plus I live about 10 min from them) but here is what my opinion is. I have owned many turbo cars in the past. Where they fast and fun and made cool noises? Absolutely. But I daily drive my cars. Every day, to work and back, to the store, to the mall ect. That includes MN winters that see -10 in the middle of Jan. and 95 degreees with 80% humidity in the summer. I have always had little issues with my turbo kits once you start getting abouve 50-60k miles. (does not mean everyone will) but the heat, and leaking oil lines, and coolent lines, and leaking wastegates all added up to problems with me. For this car, I wanted a clean set-up. Nothing to blow the doors off of a Vette. The Vortech kit is about the same price. BUT, I can install this myself, less parts (no oil lines, no tapping into OEM oil pan), and less heat, and overall less maint. To me, my gut tells me that over time, this could be more reliable for my driving conditions. I came from the S2000 community, and I know guys that put Vortech kits on their cars brand new and now have over 160k miles on them without issues. That is what im hoping to achieve. I hope that helps.