Blue eBay springs? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

brianlo622 · 03-21-2013, 06:28 PM

The point to put aftermarket parts on a car is to improve, not to worsen

Toyota spent many hours of R&D on the suspension of the 86, and it is a car known to have exceptional handling in stock form

I dont even trust some $999 coilovers on this car, let alone $130 springs with unknown spring rate, R&D time, manufacturing and build quality, etc etc

fatoni · 03-21-2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ttrentt

Does anybody know the deal with the tuning pros $130 blue eBay springs?

Please stay out of this thread with comments that they are ebay junk/cheap/poor unless you have real experience with them. I did notice the spring rates look suspect with lower # in the rear -- opposite of most other options.

I am not looking to autox/track or anything else. Just looking for 1inch down

I tried searching with no help.

Thank you,

ebay springs have their purpose (although imo, its for cheap threaded sleeves on cheap cars like miatas and the like. not so much a 25k brand new car). the spring rates are what suggest that they did zero research on anything other than actually fitting the spring on the car if they even did that.

ttrentt · 03-21-2013, 06:35 PM

I understand y'all's comments. I think I'm gonna go with hotchiks

SubieNate · 03-21-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

the spring rates are what suggest that they did zero research on anything other than actually fitting the spring on the car if they even did that.

This. Those springs will make this car understeer like a fat pig.

Apex Chase · 03-21-2013, 09:19 PM

As someone who has a little bit of product development experience in the automotive aftermarket I can tell you that the unit cost to manufacture a good set of quality lowering springs is close to that price. These brandless springs are being sold for $130 by a "vendor" no one has ever heard of and who felt compelled to invoke Japan in his product description. Buyer beware. Supporting vendors that support your community is always your best bet.

SloS13 · 03-21-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

ebay springs have their purpose (although imo, its for cheap threaded sleeves on cheap cars like miatas and the like. not so much a 25k brand new car). the spring rates are what suggest that they did zero research on anything other than actually fitting the spring on the car if they even did that.

+1 for truth. -1 for dissing Miatas. It's a draw.

d1ck · 03-21-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

ebay springs have their purpose (although imo, its for cheap threaded sleeves on cheap cars like miatas and the like. not so much a 25k brand new car). the spring rates are what suggest that they did zero research on anything other than actually fitting the spring on the car if they even did that.

Their only "place" is the one where you first waste your money on them, only to have to replace them after they've failed. Cheap springs are cheap for a reason.

They're probably heat treated by some guy with a propane torch and a bottle of water. Not to mention who knows what the actual spring rates are. I'd be willing to bet that there are large differences between individual springs.

If you want cheap shit, buy it. Otherwise spend a little more and get something that actually has some R&D behind it.

*KID* · 03-22-2013, 01:48 PM

These will get you rust over a few weeks, and they WILL sag. Spring rates arent prolly accurate

Lverasky · 03-22-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by *KID*

These will get you rust over a few weeks, and they WILL sag. Spring rates arent prolly accurate

these spring mostly like coming from the Sleep Country back yard.

Ranatsu · 03-22-2013, 02:46 PM

You obviously don't care about quality or safety, so just heat or cut your stock springs....

:/

fatoni · 03-22-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SloS13

+1 for truth. -1 for dissing Miatas. It's a draw.

im not dissing miatas. ive owned a couple myself. im just saying that i understand a low budget when you buy a $1500 car more than a $25000 car.

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Originally Posted by d1ck

Their only "place" is the one where you first waste your money on them, only to have to replace them after they've failed. Cheap springs are cheap for a reason.

They're probably heat treated by some guy with a propane torch and a bottle of water. Not to mention who knows what the actual spring rates are. I'd be willing to bet that there are large differences between individual springs.

If you want cheap shit, buy it. Otherwise spend a little more and get something that actually has some R&D behind it.

i dont think you have any clue what im saying. the threaded sleeves they come with are easily worth the $100 to get them (for miatas at least)

wparsons · 03-22-2013, 07:00 PM

^^ These springs don't have threaded sleeves... they're just springs, not coilovers.

ttrentt · 03-23-2013, 01:39 PM

Thanks guys. Bought a new set of hotchkis coils.

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ttrentt Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Whiteout Location: SD Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I understand y'all's comments. I think I'm gonna go with hotchiks

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