RCE vs Swift: Any Insight?

[enjoyminutemaid]

Originally Posted by panoy86

Very useful thread, thanks all. I met 1 fellow FR-S owner, sw20kosh (i think???) at Thunderhill, and from what I recall he posted a 2:12 on RCE Yellows with 245 or 255 width tires, very impressed.

Anyone knows if any vendor sells the RCE Yellows as a "kit", i.e., springs, camber correction bolts/perches, etc, etc?

Other than RCE? I don't think so.

[Racecomp Engineering]

The best handling I have felt with regards to rear alignment settings for N/A cars is -2.0 ish to -2.2. This makes for a very planted rear. If you can get it for the FRONT, then -2.0 o -2.5 works well also.

Just my .02 cents worth.

Myles

[Hancha Group]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

The best handling I have felt with regards to rear alignment settings for N/A cars is -2.0 ish to -2.2. This makes for a very planted rear. If you can get it for the FRONT, then -2.0 o -2.5 works well also.

Just my .02 cents worth.

Myles

Myles, do you think the alignment should be different for FI cars? Just trying to nail the adjustment window we must have for our control arms, in case we have to skew one way or the other.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Hancha Group

Myles, do you think the alignment should be different for FI cars? Just trying to nail the adjustment window we must have for our control arms, in case we have to skew one way or the other.

my personal experience relates to 944 turbos with 300+ whp and almost the same corner weights as the BRZ.

The theory is to get as much CONTACT patch for forward acceleration to get power down, rather than lower HP cars that rely more on overall cornering speeds and require more rear camber to "carry speed" through.

I ran 305's on my 944 Turbo and only........-.5 rear camber.

So for my BRZ when I supercharge it, I will probably start with -1.0 rear. Difference is Turbo charge cars will have a HUGE power spike mid corner and the SC cars will be super linear. Either way at some power level I think, you will need to cross over into more contact patch rather than extra camber to achieve cornering grip with FI power.

Again thats my opinion based on my past experience. I will see if this works with the BRZ chassis soon.

Myles

[Racecomp Engineering]

Perhaps with say 255's in the rear a compromise setting for the rear might be the ticket !

Myles

[jeebus]

I've been planning on doing RCE springs as well. Can any of you chime in on what I might be able to get alignment wise, if I don't do the rear camber adjustment?

Below is my current alignment with OEM camber bolts and stock everything else. I DEFINITELY need more front camber as I am destroying the outside of the tire at each autoX, and honestly I need more rear camber too...

Front camber: -1 left, -1 right
Caster: 5.5 left, 5.5 right
Toe: 1/32" out left, 1/32" out right

Rear camber: -1.4 left, -1.6 right
Rear toe: 1/16" in left, 1/16" in right

[efactor84]

Anyone got pics with the RCE drop to get an idea how much wheel gap is covered?

[husker741]

Originally Posted by efactor84

Anyone got pics with the RCE drop to get an idea how much wheel gap is covered?

[efactor84]

Originally Posted by husker741

love the decent drop. is camber kit and mounts necessary to get a full benefit out of lowering springs?

[husker741]

Originally Posted by efactor84

love the decent drop. is camber kit and mounts necessary to get a full benefit out of lowering springs?

If you go to this thread, http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29453, it'll answer a lot of questions you have, because I asked the same thing. They are super helpful. I went with the starter kit lite.

[efactor84]

Originally Posted by husker741

If you go to this thread, http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29453, it'll answer a lot of questions you have, because I asked the same thing. They are super helpful. I went with the starter kit lite.

Thanks, that answered my question. I'm considering the camber kits and whiteline mounts to make camber adjustments.

[husker741]

Originally Posted by efactor84

Thanks, that answered my question. I'm considering the camber kits and whiteline mounts to make camber adjustments.

I think that the starter kit lite is probably the best all around spring kit for this car. I got it for like $400, while keeping the stock struts nice with replacement bump stops, then being able to adjust everything. I haven't heard one bad review about the springs or the kit yet. Although its not the lowest drop, it makes the car look much better, while keeping the stock struts.

[efactor84]

Originally Posted by husker741

I think that the starter kit lite is probably the best all around spring kit for this car. I got it for like $400, while keeping the stock struts nice with replacement bump stops, then being able to adjust everything. I haven't heard one bad review about the springs or the kit yet. Although its not the lowest drop, it makes the car look much better, while keeping the stock struts.

can you mess the camber adjustments without needing another wheel alignment?

[Grimlock]

Originally Posted by efactor84

can you mess the camber adjustments without needing another wheel alignment?

You'd want an alignment so you can set the camber to a specific number. So you'd want an alignment if you going to change alignment settings.