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RCE vs Swift: Any Insight?
I've seen lots of threads about RCE Yellows. I've seen much more reliable advisors talk about Swifts with coilovers. With that said, I have yet to see a direct comparison between the two.
RCE Yellows Rates: 4.6K F, 4.6K R Drop: 20mm (0.8") Linear Compression Swift Springs Rates 3K F, 4.5K R Drop: 25mm (1") Linear Compression So? Rates have been fixed! |
Do Swifts come with new bumpstops? That's why I went with the Yellows. They are a nice drop to get rid of the gap, but they are made with the stock struts in mind.
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RCE is 4.5 front and rear, 7k is the Tarmac II's i believe.
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Just a note, our rates are not 7k front and rear.
It's closer to about 4.6 kg/mm front and rear (or 250lbs/in). Swifts are excellent springs, and we do sell them as well. Our RCE Yellows were designed from the outset to work with replacement shortened bumpstops and a mild drop to maximize bump travel and let the spring do the "work". With the firmer front rates, this means that the initial loading happens in a more linear fashion...rather than a soft spring then firm bumpstop progression. It's a little more confidence inspiring and consistent. It also reacts a little quicker and tames the back end a bit. We did a lot of testing since we were lucky enough to have access to a preproduction BRZ (thank you Subaru of America) and went through a couple of different rates and drops before reaching our final iteration. RCE springs + a few bushings and toppings makes one hell of a Frizzle or Brizzle. Even the springs alone just turns things up a notch into a real "sport" package. :) - Andrew |
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Myles at RaceComp is a solid dude and pretty funny too! Swift? Never dealt with them. Oh, the springs? I have no idea. I have RCE Yellows that I haven't put on yet. |
I love my RCE Yellows!
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Both options are very good for springs. Really the only two to consider when it comes to springs.
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I've run Swift springs on R56 Mini and H&R Sport springs on a 2IS. Both rode very well, the swifts could have been from the factory since they weren't too much stiffer than stock, but handling improved greatly. The H&R were stiff and had a sporty ride.
I'd go RCE for the FRS |
I used to see this kind of thread a lot back in the day on IWSTI.
I think this comes down to preference. We sell and work with SWIFT a good amount. They make awesome springs as well. This is one of those decisions thats like...." Do I jump into the GT3 CUPCAR or do I jump into the 458 Challenge car?" BOTH will work well for you and offer great performance. Myles edited to stay on point. |
@Racecomp Engineering, did you guys try a christmas tree style bump stop?
I haven't install my Yellows yet and have no reason to ask other then pure, 100% curiosity. So anyone reading this, please don't think my question comes from a negative opinion. |
I think the decision really comes down to how tail happy you want the car to be. The Swift FRS rates are the most tail happy, Swift BRZ rates are a bit more neutral and the RCE's are the most neutral.
Given that some people find the FRS a bit too tail happy stock on some tracks slightly more neutral might not be a bad thing, but it'll all come down to preference. |
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