TRD airbox from the Long Beach celeb race cars

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by swift996

Interesting they stuck with an accordion style inlet. Does anyone know the airflow benefits of that design? I'd assume it might be better for low end but it seems like it would create some unnecessary turbulence at higher revs.

It doesn't have anything to do with flow. The engine moves when under load. The accordion tube allows the engine to move and not rip the airbox off of the car as it would if the tube was solid. It may seem like a determent, but it's not. I was at a Ferrari rally last year.... and EVERY car had an accordion tube going into the throttle body. If they do, I feel fine that my Scion does it.

I really like this intake. If it becomes available, I may jump on it. In all honesty, the car should have come with this airbox from the factory. Oh well.

[Black Tire]

I really like this intake as well. It looks like a stock truck/SUV air box from Toyota - much larger than the stock FR-S one. It looks like it will take a larger panel filter for more airflow. Also, it should be able to run a very good dry filter and still have a great excess of air for the engine. If it becomes available, I will have to sell my Perrin inlet tube because this looks better.

[RAN94A]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

This is the first intake I think looks the absolute worst and is an oversized stock intake with TRD letters written on it...


RIP OFF price inc.

Except that plenty of reputable tuners who arent pushing any one particular intake to get money out of you are saying the stock intake is actually the best with a high flow filter.

So a bigger stock intake allows more air volume in thereby more power.

For the most part TRD parts for this car have been quite reasonable.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by RAN94A

For the most part TRD parts for this car have been quite reasonable.

*cough* TRD Japan Brembo BBK *cough*

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

*cough* TRD Japan Brembo BBK *cough*

the key to that statement was most

[SkullWorks]

the increase in filter area is the key that everyone except BlackTire seemed to miss.

the air has the same (essential) path just less resistance because the bottle neck is now less restrictive...

Like a widemouth can instead of a normal can

or a snapple bottle vs a coke bottle

[Turdinator]

Originally Posted by RAN94A

Except that plenty of reputable tuners who arent pushing any one particular intake to get money out of you are saying the stock intake is actually the best with a high flow filter.

So a bigger stock intake allows more air volume in thereby more power.

For the most part TRD parts for this car have been quite reasonable.

Beat me to it. Larger filter for less restriction. Larger air volume for better throttle response. Still pulls air from the stock location so some of the aftermarket snorkels can still be used. Looks like a winner to me.

[FR-S Matt]

I'll put my Perrin against this hunk of junk any day. My filter sits in the direct source of where the air comes in. The TRD box pulls from the same spot the Takeda\Greddy intakes do and they just increased the size of the box 3X. Just look at the TRD exhaust. Kept the same tiny mid pipe size and put a similar muffler to stock and some new tips for $1100. SICK PERFORMANCE.

I'm not saying all TRD components are bad, but a large majority are a waste of money, highly overpriced, and don't truly perform. How come there's never any performance numbers with these TRD parts? Just because it says Toyota Racing Development means it works?

For every unreasonable price on a part, there's a competitor with something equal or better for a lot less in price. For those that don't care about money, spend away.

[RAN94A]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

I'll put my Perrin against this hunk of junk any day. My filter sits in the direct source of where the air comes in. The TRD box pulls from the same spot the Takeda\Greddy intakes do and they just increased the size of the box 3X. Just look at the TRD exhaust. Kept the same tiny mid pipe size and put a similar muffler to stock and some new tips for $1100. SICK PERFORMANCE.

Hectic bro, race me

[wootwoot]

lol....right....

I don't understand why everyone thinks those filters on a stick are any good... No air straighteners... over-sized piping... poor filtration... and "gains" that are not even outside of standard deviation. $20 of material sold for $300. Sweet.

And for the record all of these "cold air" intakes get air from the same place as the OEM system. That is what the snorkel is for. The only difference is where the location of the filter.

TRD for the win. Unless it is stupid expensive.

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by wootwoot

lol....right....

I don't understand why everyone thinks those filters on a stick are any good... No air straighteners... over-sized piping... poor filtration... and "gains" that are not even outside of standard deviation. $20 of material sold for $300. Sweet.

And for the record all of these "cold air" intakes get air from the same place as the OEM system. That is what the snorkel is for. The only difference is where the location of the filter.

TRD for the win. Unless it is stupid expensive.

TRD = Total Ripoff Department. You're crazy if you think this will be cheap.

[Walldodger]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

TRD = Total Ripoff Department. You're crazy if you think this will be cheap.

I have no doubt it will be far from cheap. Just hope it's not a stupid price.
It may well be a good airbox for all anyone knows so far. Hope there's some data released when the thing is available. Data will make it easier to justify.

[GoSharks]

If it's not stupid expensive and CAL ARB approved, could be a good option for those of us in Cali.

[WolfSongX]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

I'll put my Perrin against this hunk of junk any day. My filter sits in the direct source of where the air comes in. The TRD box pulls from the same spot the Takeda\Greddy intakes do and they just increased the size of the box 3X. Just look at the TRD exhaust. Kept the same tiny mid pipe size and put a similar muffler to stock and some new tips for $1100. SICK PERFORMANCE.

I'm not saying all TRD components are bad, but a large majority are a waste of money, highly overpriced, and don't truly perform. How come there's never any performance numbers with these TRD parts? Just because it says Toyota Racing Development means it works?

For every unreasonable price on a part, there's a competitor with something equal or better for a lot less in price. For those that don't care about money, spend away.

Actually the exhaust was probably the worst example you could've used. TRD, STi or Nismo or what have you are just louder exhausts that sound sportier. I have yet to see these produce any more than a few token HP at the most. They are marketed to fanboy types that will realize that they could've spent half as much and gotten so much more.

This, on the other hand, could actually be the real deal... it's not flashy enough for a fan boy even though it has those magical three letters on it. What it does offer is a relatively straight shot into the throttle body and a good setup for a velocity stack post-filter to naturally compress that air a little more on the way in. Without seeing all the pieces of the puzzle, we're just speculating on what this is that the other intakes aren't.

But the one thing we do know is that this is on a FACTORY PREPARED RACING CAR so it is there for a reason. This tells us that there IS an improvement to be made to the factory air box or else why would they have replaced it? I've been around motorsports of one kind or another for over 40 years and the golden rule of buiding a real race car is "You don't waste time/money on anything unless there's a benefit."

It won't be cheap... but it won't be without merit either...