BRZ vs SR-71 Blackbird

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

If you're calling it a POS for leaking fuel while on the runway then you don't really know much about the Blackbird at all.

It was a joke, I do know about the expansion joints for heat while in supersonic flight.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

I used to work in the building to the upper right in that picture. Good ole kadena afb.

Before a sr71 took off, we had to launch a bunch of tankers to refuel it. It needed fuel right after take off, and every two hours or so.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Black Tire

Color choice:

BRZ: Crystal Black Silica, Dark Gray Metallic, Galaxy Blue Silica, Lightning Red, Satin White Pearl, Sterling Silver Metallic, WR Blue Pearl

SR-71: Black

Winner: BRZ


Mileage:

BRZ: about 30 mpg at 70 mph on a highway

SR-71: about 0.4 mpg at Mach 3.1 at 70,000 feet (not counting the fuel needed get the airplane up to that altitude and speed, or the fuel leaked on the runway while waiting to take off)

Winner: BRZ


Climate control system:

BRZ: Heater and air conditioner that allows shirt-sleeve wear in almost any weather.

SR-71: Self contained pressure suit (like a space suit) that must remain sealed for the duration of the flight.

Winner: BRZ


Availability of fuel:

BRZ: Almost any gas station.

SR-71: At the air force base where it took off or from a custom designed, high-speed airborne refueling tanker.

Winner: BRZ


Cost of fuel:

BRZ: about $4 per gallon

SR-71: about $3 per gallon in 2005, so probably about $4 per gallon now, but the cost must also include the previously mentioned custom airborne refueling tanker and the previously mentioned fuel leaked on the runway before takeoff.

Winner: BRZ

$3? i think you are a bit off i think a gallon of that neat jelly fuel they use is about $400 a gallon... juss sayin...
all jokes aside

its about $4-$6 per gallon of jp-7 (supersonic jet fuel)
and an sr71 has a maximum payload of 80,000 lbs of fuel
its about 11k gal - 12k gal of fuel which is about
$45k - $55k for a full tank

+ you have to add in the cost of Triethylborane the fuel igniter

which is somewhere in the $100 per ml range and i have no clue how much of that they use(well the exact amount really)... plus it ignites when it comes in contact with the air... lol... and they use quite a bit of it to keep the engines primed or incase the engine stalls out and they ahve to resart it mid-flight... so yeah for the entire payload of fuel its probably averaged out to about $400 to $800 per gallon when you include both into the equation or more

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. a full tank of fuel for a sr-71 is in the $4-$5 mil range, plus all operating costs.... refueller, crew, maintenance ect

ohh and i think its .22 miles per gallon, which is surprisingly efficient considering a top fuel dragster burns about a gallon a second...

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay

You mean 960 meters....

It's gigantic.

It is 285 meters long which translates to 950 feet.
It has a crew complement of 430 people. Enterprise-D isn't even 900 meters, it is 641 meters long or 2,108 feet.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

It is 285 meters long which translates to 950 feet.
It has a crew complement of 430 people. Enterprise-D isn't even 900 meters, it is 641 meters long or 2,108 feet.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

That picture is so off the mark it's not even funny, that's the refit Enterprise thats 305 meters long I told you that site was bullshit.

[Brzetto]

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

That picture is so off the mark it's not even funny, that's the refit Enterprise thats 305 meters long I told you that site was bullshit.

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

meh, it would be pretty cool though for a vehicle that size

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

meh, it would be pretty cool though for a vehicle that size

Yeah I like the enterprise but it is nowhere near 960 meters it's about the size of the US Navy aircraft carrier. The saucer section is mostly living quarters the secondary hull is where all the industrial stuff and cargo bays are and it only holds about half a dozen shuttles. The original ship held exactly four shuttles but the refit holds a couple more than that. Funny thing is your average smart phone is better than the communicator from the original series. I wasn't trying to be mean to you or anything but from the looks of things the guy who designed that site has never even seen Star Trek.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

Yeah I like the enterprise but it is nowhere near 960 meters it's about the size of the US Navy aircraft carrier. The saucer section is mostly living quarters the secondary hull is where all the industrial stuff and cargo bays are and it only holds about half a dozen shuttles. The original ship held exactly four shuttles but the refit holds a couple more than that. Funny thing is your average smart phone is better than the communicator from the original series.

yeah and i looked over that site, 1 trillion dollars wouldn't be enough to build a ship bigger than the khalif... especially if it were assembled in space... you're looking at a 100 trillion dollar project funded by the largest GDP's in the world. It would be along the same lines as the ISS and would be owned collectively by the human race and not individually by any GOV or person.

I personally would want to see a TITAN built.. but you would need to melt down a moon to create enough resources to build one....



roughly 9.2 miles in length

[wbradley]

Yes, but can it circle Uranus and wipe out Klingons?

[Brzetto]

Now I can type without the phone's display bouncing all over the place. I wasn't trying to sound mean to you but when people who own websites post horrible inaccurate, that just pisses me off. The TOS Enterprise isn't as small as it looks. I'm uploading some images I downloaded from the Cygnus X-1 blueprint site, I went looking for them but I couldn't find them so I will post them on flickr.

[Brzetto]

[Xdragonxb0i]

The blackbird is only fast on the straights....