Header Preference? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Zach3794 · 03-12-2013, 10:19 PM

So I have the front pipe and catback done, as well as intake. I've heard that a few of the better header designs for our car actually replace the overpipe as well, but I'm not sure which these are.

The choices I know of are HKS, Borla UEL and EL, and Agency Power. I know MXP is due to release theirs in a few months, they just had a setback due to the header getting too close to something or another and had to revise the design just a tad.

Thoughts? Opinions? I'd prefer UEL and catless, but if there is a catted, EL, or whatever option that makes a crap ton more power, I'm all ears.

I'm also having a hard time finding dyno graphs for any of these headers, and by that I mean independent dyno tests.

Xdragonxb0i · 03-12-2013, 10:22 PM

Wait a month or two, Its almost "christmas time" for headers. Revworks, PPE, and JDL just released their headers.

Perrin, Nameless, and motiv are in the works/ or begining production.

FR-S Matt · 03-12-2013, 10:31 PM

I thought Perrin said they aren't making a header for our car?

Nameless/JDL/P&L have some really great EL headers.

Revworks/Borla/JDL (soon) all have UEL headers.

It's still an early market for headers, imo. I would wait a bit.

Zach3794 · 03-12-2013, 10:35 PM

I suppose it has only been a bit under a year since release of our car, eh? Headers do tend to be a bit more in depth of a design from what i understand. Thanks for the opinions, and keep em coming!

Turdinator · 03-12-2013, 10:54 PM

P&L EL headers look to be the good. Flatten the torque curve through the dip or make it a a bump with a tune. Also come catted and uncatted. When the time comes for me to buy some i will be getting theirs.

dabocx · 03-12-2013, 10:54 PM

Nameless and pl so far has had the design that shines the most.

Agency power was not worth it.....avoid it at all costs

Pandle · 03-12-2013, 11:09 PM

I'm thinking of either nameless which is looking VERY good or the borla uel.

Nameless:

Borla:

StarsGarrador · 03-13-2013, 11:11 AM

Perrin told me they weren't making one... But then an insider said they were. Idk which to believe.

FR-S Matt · 03-13-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by StarsGarrador

Perrin told me they weren't making one... But then an insider said they were. Idk which to believe.

I'd believe the company before the insider. Perrin only announced they are doing a 3" full system and a tune only intake.

Hawaiian · 03-13-2013, 12:13 PM

After having it on my car, I will be going P&L. I will also be modding my exhaust to get the sound "Just right". Every EL header that i've heard so far adds a rasp to the current exhausts on the market.

I'll be talking to their fab guy and work some resonators in to my current exhaust because I will not DD a car that sounds like a ricey 90's civic.

Captain Insano · 03-14-2013, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawaiian

After having it on my car, I will be going P&L. I will also be modding my exhaust to get the sound "Just right". Every EL header that i've heard so far adds a rasp to the current exhausts on the market.

I'll be talking to their fab guy and work some resonators in to my current exhaust because I will not DD a car that sounds like a ricey 90's civic.

Curious... are you modifying the midpipe on your existing catback or something else?

JoeBoxer · 03-14-2013, 12:29 AM

I think Motiv is reconsidering the development of their header, i could be wrong but thats the last i heard. I'm probably going to get JDL UEL when the time comes.

Hawaiian · 03-14-2013, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Insano

Curious... are you modifying the midpipe on your existing catback or something else?

Yessir, keeping the header catted, and along with the high flow cat I have it helps a ton, but I want to experiment with a few tweaks.

Hempo · 03-21-2013, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dabocx

Agency power was not worth it.....avoid it at all costs

And why is that? Care to ellaborate?

03-12-2013, 10:19 PM	#1
Zach3794 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Raven, Manual Location: Vista, CA Posts: 396 Thanks: 81 Thanked 143 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Header Preference? So I have the front pipe and catback done, as well as intake. I've heard that a few of the better header designs for our car actually replace the overpipe as well, but I'm not sure which these are. The choices I know of are HKS, Borla UEL and EL, and Agency Power. I know MXP is due to release theirs in a few months, they just had a setback due to the header getting too close to something or another and had to revise the design just a tad. Thoughts? Opinions? I'd prefer UEL and catless, but if there is a catted, EL, or whatever option that makes a crap ton more power, I'm all ears. I'm also having a hard time finding dyno graphs for any of these headers, and by that I mean independent dyno tests.

03-12-2013, 10:22 PM	#2
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Zach3794 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Raven, Manual Location: Vista, CA Posts: 396 Thanks: 81 Thanked 143 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I suppose it has only been a bit under a year since release of our car, eh? Headers do tend to be a bit more in depth of a design from what i understand. Thanks for the opinions, and keep em coming!

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