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The only other car that has my setup to date is Perrins. Globally. Period.
So,You drove his car and thought the sc was not impressive? No, there are only two of these, other "10psi" kits arent the "same" kit, fwiw, think what you will tho. Surely youre a turbo client either way, I dont see why youre here on each and every SC thread telling everyone how unimpressed you are. I look fwd to hearing about your turbo build when you have it. The Oil temps and IAT temps are where the hotspots hapen after extended use. I'm comparing $5500 turbos to $5500 SC builds, and I feel like the SC has a better vantage point when looking at cost per psi. You clearly have stated you think otherwise, no need to repeat yourself. On each and every Vortech thread. Im allowed to be a fan of something I own. Not sure what you have against this SC really, but l am interested in learning more about your 10psi test drive.. |
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Ya know, lets imagine this, shall we, "out do any similar budget turbo on the track after the 2nd lap" is what I said. 1st let me define "out do" since I have been speaking relative to both heat and power,not just power, and it should all translate to lap time since its in the realm of track, that I speak: how do two similarly priced systems actually perform, since that was the point of my statement, that seems to be your point of debate. I dont doubt a turbo kit can make 20psi, it can also make enough heat, or power issues to warrant spending more-that was my point. I'm good trying to have fun with it. lets. 91 fuel. summer time. here by my latitude. Lets do some imaginary, or real e-testing, shall we? All I have is a vortech kit with some 'tweaks', to be as non descript as possible, same compressor ,same FMIC,same BOV,same belt,same mounts as anyone else witha Vortech kit. I happen to think I make near 10psi output with less heat than the turbo guy running a similarly built, similarly priced setup. This is teh basis of my statement quoted above that youre diggin into... Not trying to start a war or anything, but its a fun bet, how about looser buys winner a beer of winners choice? Whats your fav brew? I'm a sucker for Alaskan Amber in domestics, and in Foreign, I like that Bodingtons. I'm made fun of when I drink Arrogant Bastard. Lol. It will be lap times vs lap times for the day with begin heat levels, oil and water vs end heat levels oil and water, for each session that get logged, along with lap times. Winner has to have both faster lap times and lower temps for any given session. Let the other car have a basic kit, like mine, no fancy radiator, no fancy mods outside of what a basic kit comes with, you choose the turbo unit of your choice, it can have its turbo, its method of pushing oil thru the turbo, its FMIC, its BOV. Basic, like mine. Lets us have a price cap of $6000 for the budget for the FI kit. Since I'm speaking relative to my car vs whatever, lets make the limits as follows: -stock radiators -Test should be done in Socal or Phx. best of a days laps. -both kits equal tires and similar suspension, I'm on sticky DOT 225s so lets keep it no wider -no add on items outside what comes with stage1 kit setup, we both run -without added on perrin oil coolers -we both run without any fuel upgrades, oe pump and injection, like me otherwise the systems are no longer similarly priced, right? this was the pov from which my statement originated.. again, my thread and my car is just an example of what a basic vortech kit can be made to do, with this v3 spec'd kit they are selling today This would be staying in line with the perspective from which I speak, and how my car has been. I have really not been able to run it much since putting the oil cooler back on, with the weather we have had of late. If you really think a similarly priced turbo is equally as efficient with regards to heat, power and cost, I'd say you may be close, but I like me a beer! Wouldnt that be a fun day at the track? so, whose turbo kit would you be using in our real or imaginary test, @2forme? surely, you wont be selecting a twin screw for this test, if it were a sc would you? Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 03-10-2013 at 07:02 PM. |
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@Huehuecoyotl there is no way you can title this thread "3rd party review" when your car is one of the development cars for Vortech and you are fanboy #1.... You are getting the cake and eating it all including icing...
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... when 3rd parties have been in and driven my car, you will hear from them, so yeah, as you keenly observed, so far its been my biased, fanboyish, having my car, cake and eating it too perspective as all I can share with you all. I'm sure you will see more objectivity as others who have been exposed my build can chime in. I didnt think my review was so far off, but so far every post seems to be from folks who have not driven my car, but feel they have something to add to my thread...I'm sure youre all here for the 3rd party stuff, so like i said, take what I post with a grain of salt this hasnt happpend yet, but should soon, stay tuned, looking to get to PHX to dyno this week, and meeting with some local members next week |
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That took longer then I thought.
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@sportguy83 Where did I say "the TC kits can't hold 10 psi of boost to redline", could you point out my post#, please? show me where I authored this, or it was quoted, please. sw20kosh authored that, NOT me. Dont pin me for what others write in response to my posts, or as a misunderstandings, or assume I mean what they write! I know TCs can hold more psi. I simply think they make more heat, and a hotter charge. I'm entitled to be wrong, and if I am prove it so.
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Gem, the problem isn't that you have an opinion about your supercharger. The problem is when you start making comparisons to justify your choice. You make blanket statements like "TC's produce sooo much more heat" and "SC's will win on the track every time". That causes the commotion.
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Don't pay attention to me Gem, I only posted to try and help you stay here and note get in trouble. You do what you have to do. I would really appreciate if you could just keep things in perspective, truthful and accurate to prevent flame wars..... BUT here we are, back to square one... I even defended you on this thread, but I am starting to see the same behaviors as before... I won't say anything else about it. Again, just wanted to help. Last edited by Sportsguy83; 03-10-2013 at 08:43 PM. |
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Ahh, here we have all the same faces, and yes, all the same bait
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Now, I am in trouble for posts I had the wisdom to delete too, it seems. either I'm slick, or you all have nothing on me. maybe you're making something outta nothing and should all simmer down. Trust me, @Calum, am trying to not fuck this up. If haven't said anything overtly offensive, AND, another user says that, in fact I'm being reasonable. But I still come off as an arrogant prick? No, I dont get what you mean. Sorry. @Sportsguy83, now its not something I said, theres nothing you can produce, but now my 'behaviour' is not acceptable? WTF? Rather, I mean could you please elaborate?maybe its best to not and drop this attack against me. How am I behaving- defensive at some of these posts? elated with my kit? unsure as to why folks are coming here posting their reviews of other peoples vortech kits? yes, indeed. geeshh...back off folks. Quote:
I'm here to share my build, not start trouble, guys, got that? I see that "SC's will win on the track every time" got folks upset, it wasnt meant that way. Let me try and excuse myself and call it self affirmation. No harm meant at any TC owners builders buyers or fans. I own TC's too. I will try to watch how I post my enthusiasm, and will be more careful, okay? My next post will be a dyno post EDIT 3/11/13-dyno appointment made for 3/13/13 and yes, I am gonna ignore the rest of you, I think thats what is in my interest. Forum ignore list updated. its for the best. Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 03-11-2013 at 02:02 PM. |
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