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FT-86 SpeedFactory · 03-10-2013, 01:33 AM

The base run @ 168 is with a K&N panel filter. Was the most complete, close to stock, run we had on file.

Zaneman · 03-10-2013, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

The base run @ 168 is with a K&N panel filter. Was the most complete, close to stock, run we had on file.

So this run is tuned vs untuned stock(+filter)? Stock exhaust and only the header is different?

chadstyle · 03-10-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

The base run @ 168 is with a K&N panel filter. Was the most complete, close to stock, run we had on file.

After such a long wait, why such the quiet posting of the dyno run? I'm a little confused also...are you claiming the header made 12whp?

NoFear99 · 03-10-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaneman

So this run is tuned vs untuned stock(+filter)? Stock exhaust and only the header is different?

The base run is a stock car with a KandN air filter drop in.

The other run must be their car with the headers + complete exhaust system.

I dont think there is any tune involved in those results.

LeeMaster · 03-10-2013, 01:02 PM

Wow the torque dip has been almost eliminated. But what were the mods?

BRZ? · 03-10-2013, 01:04 PM

Need some infooooo

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 03-10-2013, 01:09 PM

Guys more info is coming. It was 12:30am here when I posted that. I was dead tired. I wanted to get it up though to hopefully excite people. I'm happy with the results.

I'm editing photos, video and etc right now with a full disclosure.

mad_sb · 03-10-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

Guys more info is coming. It was 12:30am here when I posted that. I was dead tired. I wanted to get it up though to hopefully excite people. I'm happy with the results.

I'm editing photos, video and etc right now with a full disclosure.

Sweet, looking forward to the info.

For the record i my money is on the posted results including a tune.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 03-10-2013, 02:09 PM

Alright guys we somewhat got a break in the weather which only included a bunch of rain, so we braved the water and got the silver car across town for some dyno time.

Now I want to add this in here. This is our independent test. Borla did not give us this header, we had to buy it. Below are the details in which we did the dyno, the parts on the car, and other information.

Mods on the car that affect the results:

Current Upgrades:
Engine & Exhaust
FT-86 SpeedFactory V1 Exhaust
Borla UEL header
Perrin Overpipe
Invidia catted frontpipe
aFe Takeda Intake

Wheels & Tires
Enkei RPF1 17x9+35 Matte Black
Hankook RS-3 in 255/40/17
Drop Engineering Lug Nuts
(This combo adds more surface area and 1.5lbs per corner over stock)

Fuel
91 Octane

Tune
FA20Club Stage 2
(more on this below)

The pulls we did are done in 4th gear. Sampling started right around 3000rpm.

The car does have a stage 2 tune from FA20Club. The below image is what the car did with a stage 2 tune out of the box by adding the Borla UEL. This is no revisions yet, and a tune we had on the car from back in December.

After doing some pulls, sending the data in to FA20Club and getting a tune back this is what we got compared to a stock car.

The stock dyno we did back in August was a poor sample so we overlay'd it to one that was the K&N drop in filter dyno.

As you can see the torque dip is significantly reduced and almost flat now. FA20Club mentioned that had we been able to get 93 octane fuel in the car we would have seen more gains, but 91 is all we get here in Des Moines, so it had to do. I'm excited and happy with the new torque curve, especially with autocross and track season almost here for us in Iowa.

Video
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xH-97ASvbU"]Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ Borla UEL Dyno - Unequal Length Header - YouTube[/ame]

mad_sb · 03-10-2013, 06:26 PM

Solid gains and good price point. I'm sure you guys will sell a lot of units. Sounds a little too raspy for me though. Will be interested to compare UEL to EL if they ever realease that one.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 03-10-2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb

Solid gains and good price point. I'm sure you guys will sell a lot of units. Sounds a little too raspy for me though. Will be interested to compare UEL to EL if they ever realease that one.

We've tried getting an EL one, but Borla isn't interested in working with us; it seems like.

We'll have to wait until we can buy one.

shu5892001 · 03-10-2013, 07:05 PM

So only 12 hp increase from tune, intake, header, and full exhaust?

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 03-10-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shu5892001

So only 12 hp increase from tune, intake, header, and full exhaust?

17HP PEAK actually on this car, with 91 octane. 163 was base line number. Higher octane would add some more.

Also the Peak HP isn't exactly important unless you're playing a numbers game. We're after overall improvements across the band especially down low with TQ.

If you look at the plot, some areas have a 20+ HP increase and a 20+ FT/LB increase.

mad_sb · 03-10-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shu5892001

So only 12 hp increase from tune, intake, header, and full exhaust?

Gotta look at the area under the curve not just peak numbers and this is a good bit of area.

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FT-86 SpeedFactory Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 7,694 Thanks: 1,298 Thanked 3,579 Times in 1,253 Posts Mentioned: 341 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	Alright guys we somewhat got a break in the weather which only included a bunch of rain, so we braved the water and got the silver car across town for some dyno time. Now I want to add this in here. This is our independent test. Borla did not give us this header, we had to buy it. Below are the details in which we did the dyno, the parts on the car, and other information. Mods on the car that affect the results: Current Upgrades: Engine & Exhaust FT-86 SpeedFactory V1 Exhaust Borla UEL header Perrin Overpipe Invidia catted frontpipe aFe Takeda Intake Wheels & Tires Enkei RPF1 17x9+35 Matte Black Hankook RS-3 in 255/40/17 Drop Engineering Lug Nuts (This combo adds more surface area and 1.5lbs per corner over stock) Fuel 91 Octane Tune FA20Club Stage 2 (more on this below) The pulls we did are done in 4th gear. Sampling started right around 3000rpm. The car does have a stage 2 tune from FA20Club. The below image is what the car did with a stage 2 tune out of the box by adding the Borla UEL. This is no revisions yet, and a tune we had on the car from back in December. After doing some pulls, sending the data in to FA20Club and getting a tune back this is what we got compared to a stock car. The stock dyno we did back in August was a poor sample so we overlay'd it to one that was the K&N drop in filter dyno. As you can see the torque dip is significantly reduced and almost flat now. FA20Club mentioned that had we been able to get 93 octane fuel in the car we would have seen more gains, but 91 is all we get here in Des Moines, so it had to do. I'm excited and happy with the new torque curve, especially with autocross and track season almost here for us in Iowa. Video [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xH-97ASvbU"]Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ Borla UEL Dyno - Unequal Length Header - YouTube[/ame]

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