AVO Turbo Kit Stage 2 - work in progress

[shishand]

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

Roughly looking at a target of 5800.00, that's the Stage 1 + the Stage 2 components (MAP sensor, 7psi Actuator, Cross-Over Pipe, High-flow Front Pipe, Stage 2 Base Map).

Just for stage one, the kit will be retailing at 3800$?
And i just wanted to thank you guys for building this awesome kit, at an price that appeals to many people including myself great job! As a college student, even though i have to save up, this kit is actually do-able and ill be looking forward to it most likely in the summer!

Cheers and thanks!

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

We do concurrent testing with both, since a majority of the GT86 platform is built in AT configs from my understanding... In any case, know that there's much, more... room.

Cheers!


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

So can we expect dyno charts between the AT and M/T about the same? thanks again for your work!

[cmss2000]

Originally Posted by shishand

Just for stage one, the kit will be retailing at 3800$?
And i just wanted to thank you guys for building this awesome kit, at an price that appeals to many people including myself great job! As a college student, even though i have to save up, this kit is actually do-able and ill be looking forward to it most likely in the summer!

In reality stage 1 started off at a nice $3800, but then jumped to $4400 with now standard ceramic coating and needs a BOV, so stage 1 in reality is $4650 (correct me if I'm wrong here).

Stage 2 is really only adding a MAP sensor (with different tune and actuator), so it shouldn't cost that much more than stage 1 (without the exhaust components). That's why I was questioning having to buy stage 1 and stage 2 separately...the price was starting to climb way higher than other kits that include pump and injectors and fans and make more HP than stage 2 does.

Edit: I think AVO's website still says $3800 on one of the pages...which makes it confusing. Also, don't think I'm bashing this kit, it's nice and I'm still considering it, but not if it was going to cost $6000 and still not include all the components needed to make 300HP.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by cmss2000

In reality stage 1 started off at a nice $3800, but then jumped to $4400 with now standard ceramic coating and needs a BOV, so stage 1 in reality is $4650 (correct me if I'm wrong here).

Stage 2 is really only adding a MAP sensor (with different tune and actuator), so it shouldn't cost that much more than stage 1 (without the exhaust components). That's why I was questioning having to buy stage 1 and stage 2 separately...the price was starting to climb way higher than other kits that include pump and injectors and fans and make more HP than stage 2 does.

You can still order the package with no coating (I don't recommend it at all... the coating is great at managing temperature) via special request.

No, you DO NOT require a BOV. (I think) The kit has a recirculating valve. BOV is just an option.

[cmss2000]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

You can still order the package with no coating (I don't recommend it at all... the coating is great at managing temperature) via special request.

No, you DO NOT require a BOV. The kit has a recirculating valve. BOV is just an option.

Are you sure? From what I understand, the BOV is extra whether you want recirc or 50% VTA. And I also saw varying prices on it $220 - 250.

[shishand]

Im confused, the original thread was updated with this info: " * The base kit will be priced at $3800.00 USD in North America."

which one should we expect? sorry for the many questions!

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

You can still order the package with no coating (I don't recommend it at all... the coating is great at managing temperature) via special request.

No, you DO NOT require a BOV. The kit has a recirculating valve. BOV is just an option.

Originally Posted by shishand

Im confused, the original thread was updated with this info: " * The base kit will be priced at $3800.00 USD in North America."

which one should we expect? sorry for the many questions!

Read above. Paul stated some weeks ago, almost all orders requested coating (it just makes sense..) and that bumped the price of kits to $4400. Since almost all orders wanted coating, AVO decided to make the coating standard, BUT he also said you can still order the kit for $3800 with out coating (again, not recommended).

[cmss2000]

Well, if it includes a recirculating something or another and I can still get it for $3800 without coating (I can wrap it myself), I stand corrected and am very interested.

Here is what I saw on the website...
Pricing:
MSRP on the kit will be $3800.00, and will include the base tuning map.
Optional Parts:
AVO 2.5" stainless steel cat-back exhaust for turbocharged vehicles (MSRP $990.00)
AVO high-flow panel filter for the BRZ and FR-S (MSRP $55.00)
AVO Blow-off Valve Kit (MSRP $220.00)
ProECU Programming Kit
The intake piping has ports to mount up a variety of blow-off valves, even OEM ones for a full stealth look.

Then on the order page.....
Pricing:
MSRP on the kit will be $4400.00, and will include the EcuTek base tune. An EcuTek License and OBD-II cable are optional.

[KamalT]

Just a quick question, Is the base map 2 included in the price???
If we wanted to get our tune from elsewhere what will the price be without stg 2 tune.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by cmss2000

Here is what I saw on the website...
Pricing:
MSRP on the kit will be $3800.00, and will include the base tuning map.

Then on the order page.....
Pricing:
MSRP on the kit will be $4400.00, and will include the EcuTek base tune. An EcuTek License and OBD-II cable are optional.

I explained it in post 115 and 119. To get the 3800 price, Paul said it was now "special order". Contact him.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by KamalT

Just a quick question, Is the base map 2 included in the price???
If we wanted to get our tune from elsewhere what will the price be without stg 2 tune.

Base map is included and cannot be taken out. Even with a base map, you still are recommended to get your local tune. Base map is a general map to get the car running safely after install.

[cmss2000]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

I explained it in post 115 and 119. To get the 3800 price, Paul said it was "special order". Contact him.

Sounds good, but I'm still not sure about the BOV. A BOV is required on a turbo whether it's recirculating or VTA or a combination. I saw it as an option, so I asked Paul if any was included or if I had to buy one extra.

Here is his response....
You do need to fit*a* BOV, but by no means do we lock you to our BOV, and that's why we leave it as an option. An OEM Bosch bypass valve from the Evo would fit just fine, along with a number of other options with a similar design.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by cmss2000

Sounds good, but I'm still not sure about the BOV. A BOV is required on a turbo whether it's recirculating or VTA or a combination. I saw it as an option, so I asked Paul if any was included or if I had to buy one extra.

Here is his response....
You do need to fit*a* BOV, but by no means do we lock you to our BOV, and that's why we leave it as an option. An OEM Bosch bypass valve from the Evo would fit just fine, along with a number of other options with a similar design.

This discussion has happened here before. We have been through it a couple of times. (its in the stage one thread). Paul himself answered it in that thread. The bypass valve is included in the kit. You do not NEED a BOV and (I THINK!) the recirculating valve is included with the kit.


Edit: Did a quick search and from the stage 1 kit thread: (Could not find a direct response to this question by Paul or Ross, it might be that you are correct and not even the bosch one ($50) is included:

Originally Posted by No Limit Motorsport

The standard unit with the kit is an OEM style plastic Bosch by-pass valve which is usually a 1" inlet and outlet. Their are many plug-n-play replacement options such as

My fav, and what I am putting on our car
http://synapseengineering.pinnacleca...product&id=592

http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product...-universal-fit

http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product...-universal-fit

http://www.forgemotorsport.com/conte...duct=FMCL007PA

[cmss2000]

Just looked at stage 1 thread and FAQ's....

Will this kit include a BOV? Can I use any BOV on this kit?

BOV will be an optional part, with an AVO 100% recirculate (or 50/50) available, as well as other aftermarket or even OEM. The flange for the BOV will be the same as the EVO 7/8/9, for customers that want a full "OEM" look to it.

Does the kit include a BOV or exhaust components coating?

Both items are offered as an option and at additional cost.

Edit: I think Paul or Bob is going to have to chime in here.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by cmss2000

Just looked at stage 1 thread and FAQ's....

Will this kit include a BOV? Can I use any BOV on this kit?

BOV will be an optional part, with an AVO 100% recirculate (or 50/50) available, as well as other aftermarket or even OEM. The flange for the BOV will be the same as the EVO 7/8/9, for customers that want a full "OEM" look to it.

Does the kit include a BOV or exhaust components coating?

Both items are offered as an option and at additional cost.

Edit: I think Paul or Bob is going to have to chime in here.

I tried searching back the thread and could not find their specific response to that question, (other people did respond saying it's included but not them directly) so I'm going to say, I might be wrong and you would need to buy a bosch unit at the minimum (that bosch unit is $50). I don't think $50 will keep anyone from spending 4K.

Also, I want to mention that the cost to add FI to the car is way more than the kit price. There are supporting mods that will need to happen that will up the price of any kit some thousands of dollars.


Also, me saying a BOV is not required meant that a Blow Off Valve is not required, just a recirculating valve, but alas, I might be wrong and no recirculating valve is included either.

BTW, I created that FAQ