Drift Armor Drift Bar

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by Batman

I can agree with you there completely. And my whole mind around this bar is to protect the car at fender benders and at race events. For a daily driver, the OEM crash bar might be the better choice. but until someone is willing to front end crash test their new drift armor, the world will never know how much difference there will be.. also keeping intact all the other multiple crash crumple zones, it isn't too much of a change.

If you even have to think twice that the OEM crash bar "might" be better for a DD, then I dont know what to tell you

[Batman]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

If you even have to think twice that the OEM crash bar "might" be better for a DD, then I dont know what to tell you

I say "might" be better, because every owner has different priorities and preferences, and I respect that. I personally want to use the drift bar for daily driving, but I won't be replacing anything else frame wise (crumple wise). If another owner wants nothing to do with the drift bar, hey! I respect that, and leave it at that. I'm in no way out to convince the world its a must have.

So please.. let me have my drift armor?

[Laika]

Originally Posted by EarlQHan

Look at the JDM STI crash beam. It is about 50% lighter than the USDM one. Don't see any more Japanese STI owners dying than American ones. In fact, look at all the STI owners going FMIC, I'd say they're still safer than OEM Evos. I own an STI with a FMIC for reference, so yes, I have driven without the beam on.

Edit: I'm not defending or endorsing the Drift Armor bars, I'm just clearing up facts.

Out of curiosity, does a FMIC on an STI require removal of the crash beam or is it circumstantial?

[EarlQHan]

Originally Posted by Laika

Out of curiosity, does a FMIC on an STI require removal of the crash beam or is it circumstantial?

depends on how both are designed.

[was385]

Originally Posted by Batman

Fair, and I completely understand both sides of the argument. However, these cars DO have crumple zones, airbags, safety restraints, the works. The point I'm trying to make is that changing out this ONE piece to allow more room for an intercooler on a racetrack (or even daily driving) isn't going to somehow slaughter every living being. Yes it might slice through bodywork or a tree, maybe a living organism, but what is a person doing running across a road where said drift car is driving fast enough to slice them up? I'm not going to create a solid steel hunk on wheels, just a different crash pad up front, a little cleaner. I don't feel the need for all the listed police car stuff, just saying its there for reason. Not everyone is using this car as soley a personal DD, many are using it as a track dedicated car, or a weekend warrior of sorts.

Before I lose all credibility, everyone should know its just my personal preference to have a combination of 70s car sturdiness and modern day safety. Your opinions and preferences are yours to share, or keep.

So anyway, to get the thread back on track, I want one. /end

I'm not going to profess I have an in-depth knowledge about the structural engineering of the BRZ/FRS, so I'm not going to say whether this thing is good or bad. My point is that based on your comments about 70s cars somehow performing better in a crash than a modern car shows me you have no more knowledge on this subject than me. And when you're taking your making a modification that COULD potentially impair your own safety, or (more importantly) the safety of others, I'd think it would be a much smarter move to at the very least become a little more knowledgable on the subject.

And I'll just say on top of this, keep in mind that if you ever got into a serious accident that injured another person, any halfway competent lawyer could probably take you to town for this modification.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by was385

And I'll just say on top of this, keep in mind that if you ever got into a serious accident that injured another person, any halfway competent lawyer could probably take you to town for this modification.

/thread. Even if you were not at fault a lawyer would have a heyday with this mod if it could even possibly be deemed responsible for another party's injury.

[Batman]

Ill accept my knowledge of 70s car structure is limited. Just trying to make a side point on car strength. Everyone to their own!

[Batman]

also... I'm man enough to admit I'm wrong, in my defense I wasn't around in the seventies haha

But this made me laugh

[cruzinbill]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

/thread. Even if you were not at fault a lawyer would have a heyday with this mod if it could even possibly be deemed responsible for another party's injury.

Or maybe not hit people? If some jackass wants to run out in the middle of the road and I hit him. Im gonna get out and beat the shit out of him. There are crosswalks for a reason.

If you are going over 35, it doesnt matter what kind of bar you have. If under 35, either you werent paying attention or he wanted to get hit.

Also, I guess people shouldnt be lowering or raisng their vehicles either since that changes the impact point.... guess more lawyers to find blame. Dont get me started on motorcycles that dont even have bumpers.....

I will def be getting one.

[Batman]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

Or maybe not hit people? If some jackass wants to run out in the middle of the road and I hit him. Im gonna get out and beat the shit out of him. There are crosswalks for a reason.

If you are going over 35, it doesnt matter what kind of bar you have. If under 35, either you werent paying attention or he wanted to get hit.

Also, I guess people shouldnt be lowering or raisng their vehicles either since that changes the impact point.... guess more lawyers to find blame. Dont get me started on motorcycles that dont even have bumpers.....

I will def be getting one.

Batmans hero lol

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

Or maybe not hit people? If some jackass wants to run out in the middle of the road and I hit him. Im gonna get out and beat the shit out of him.

And then you're going to jail. Have fun with that. I think your epeen is showing btw.

Bottom line? Accidents happen. And it's best to not make them worse. The motorcycle comparison is just dumb so I'm not even going to go there.

Cheers
Nathan

[ML]

I can't believe (well I can actually) that all of want to argue over this thing when it is OFF ROAD USE ONLY

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by ML

I can't believe (well I can actually) that all of want to argue over this thing when it is OFF ROAD USE ONLY

If people were treating it that way there wouldn't be an argument. The point of contention is using this on the street, which many people seem to think is a good idea.

[cruzinbill]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

And then you're going to jail. Have fun with that. I think your epeen is showing btw.

Bottom line? Accidents happen. And it's best to not make them worse. The motorcycle comparison is just dumb so I'm not even going to go there.

Cheers
Nathan

My point is, people are always gonna bitch and complain about everything...always debate things being wrong or right. Just take responsibility for what you do instead of trying to blame it on a car part.

Also if you hit a pedestrian your going to jail anyway. Thats a fact.