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Old 02-21-2013, 06:05 PM   #57
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For people with tire questions this is a awesome vid. shows lots of tire info and a nice review of BRZ.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQwWdZ00HYQ&feature=share&list=PL21BEAC672 CD0400C"]Modifying the 2013 Subaru BRZ! The First Change a Driver Should Make - Wide Open Throttle Episode 39 - YouTube[/ame]


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Old 02-21-2013, 06:29 PM   #58
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Most good Max Performance Summer tires have full 10/32 tread depth (some Extreme Performance too) and plenty of void ratio to resist hydroplaning. Sipes don't necessarily do a lot for wet grip or hydroplaning resistance.

Tire Rack testing of Max Performance tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=162

Tire Rack testing of UHP All-Season tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=165

Same car, same tests (different day though), the best Max Performance tires do a bit better in the wet as well as in the dry vs. the best Ultra High Performance All-Seasons.
Yeah, but again, wet grip is not the same as hydroplaning resistance. When summer tires are new, they are fine for hydroplaning resistance because they are obviously designed for that in mind unless you get a more dry track oriented tire. However, I find that they wear quicker and much of the grooving disappears so the hydroplaning resistance rapidly deteriorates. I have some Michelin Pilot Super Sports and after a few months, they basically look like the old dry weather Formula 1 tires. It makes me nervous to drive over puddles now.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:08 PM   #59
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Max Perf tires will wear quicker, but given large void area, they aren't losing any more hydroplaning resistance at a given level of wear.

I have Pilot Super Sports, too, on my RX-7. The 275/35-18 rears have a TON of void area percentage. the 245/40-17 fronts have less void ratio, but still a lot. I'd put my money on these tires against similar size all-seasons for hydroplaning resistance.

But of course, *obviously* they wear quicker and need to be replaced sooner. In the meantime, greater wet and dry grip vs. any all-season!
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I went with BFG G-force sport comp-2, can't really give any real opinion on wear yet cuz i've only had them on the car for about 2000-2500 miles. However for how they are now i have had absolutely no issues in either rain or dry they are just really really grippy.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:48 PM   #62
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Picked up the new baby today. Will definitely be taking it easy while I learn how the car reacts, but everything is very smooth and I love the way it drives so far.

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Picked up the new baby today. Will definitely be taking it easy while I learn how the car reacts, but everything is very smooth and I love the way it drives so far.

KM Toyota?
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:06 PM   #64
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Picked up the new baby today. Will definitely be taking it easy while I learn how the car reacts, but everything is very smooth and I love the way it drives so far.
Welcome to the addiction! They are not fast in the straight line at all, but itll consistently and repeatedly put a smile on your face when youre blasting through some turns.
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KM Toyota?
Yep Kearny Mesa Scion. Rich Manas is the man. Been in contact with him off and on since the FR-S was first announced. Was going to get one upon original release, but ended up buying a condo instead. With current circumstances, I felt if I bought anything else (lower) it would just be filler and I would regret not getting the FR-S. Guy is a stand-up salesman and did his best to get me one as soon as possible after the wreck. I recommend him highly.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:00 PM   #66
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Picked up the new baby today. Will definitely be taking it easy while I learn how the car reacts, but everything is very smooth and I love the way it drives so far.

Congrats man, enjoy her she's a beauty!
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:32 PM   #67
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At least all the scion fwd race car skilled drivers are getting FRS's so my BRZ insurance rate should stay low.
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Can't wait to see what you do with a RWD Car! Haha! Good Luck!
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I'll back up the OP on rain not being the same out here. I used to live in Michigan and I've driven on slipperier wet roads out here than snowy roads back in Michigan. When it doesn't rain for 10 months a ton of oil and other shit accumulates, then it rains and all the oil sits on the surface of the water and the roads are like ice.
Yep. One of many reasons California drivers struggle in rain. We get maybe 10-12" of rain per year. It's just not something we get, and when we do get it, the conditions are extra awful. All the more reason to be more careful next time.
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funny thing is that when your FRS tires are bald in ,say about 2 weeks then you will bitch that car up in about threee weeks. these frs/brz cars are light and very tail happy...good luck
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