BRZ vs Chevy SS

[SprayedBigCube]

Originally Posted by bimmerboy

The only reason you can compare the two cars is price, everything else is not comparable IMO..

Also a SS version will probably be around 32-35k similar to the Camaro SS

...agreed, price is about the only thing that can be compared.

[niceassfd]

apples to oranges. =)

[Sc0ob_do0D]

Here's the real thing, complete with a BRZ grill...lol

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/16/t...-chevrolet-ss/

[jflogerzi]

I like the new SS. Granted Chevy's dash looks terrible. Also the price is around 38K

[chulooz]

I think theyve already admitted it wont hold at the $30K estimates, its probably moved into the $45K segment. Handling Vs Power, Compact Vs Family, Economical Vs Thirsty... Both cool rigs.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Would buy as my highway cruiser. Really though, I'm looking for a used LS 4xx to fill that role.

[jflogerzi]

Also no manual transmission.

[Brzetto]

The problem with GM is they like to use old technology and just refine it over the years but it's still old technology, they got rid of Pontiac, they like to waste money and then ask for a bailout from the government hence the name government motors and the government owns more than 50% of GM. Hell even the new Corvette Stingray uses a pushrod V8 instead of a DOHC engine, they cut corners every chance they get. Honda makes mostly commuter cars with one sporty car thats lost its magic, Nissan is doing pretty much the same. I have a feeling the GTR and 370Z will be shown the door soon.

[was385]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

The problem with GM is they like to use old technology and just refine it over the years but it's still old technology, they got rid of Pontiac, they like to waste money and then ask for a bailout from the government hence the name government motors and the government owns more than 50% of GM. Hell even the new Corvette Stingray uses a pushrod V8 instead of a DOHC engine, they cut corners every chance they get. Honda makes mostly commuter cars with one sporty car thats lost its magic, Nissan is doing pretty much the same. I have a feeling the GTR and 370Z will be shown the door soon.

You're a little behind on the whole situation.

[RavenFR-S]

If the second article is the real thing, then the appearance is very boring. At least the G8 had great styling going for it. This looks like a dated Malibu/Impala. I am not impressed at all in that category. LS3 is a good choice but, the weight of the car is obviously quite heavy. 0-60 in nearly 5 seconds? With that much power, I would expect much better results (not implying 0-60 is the only measure of performance).

It is hard for me to say, but I do not like any of the vehicles Chevrolet produces currently. The C7 is not that great IMO. I would not have labeled it a "Stingray". The Camaro is garbage. This vehicle solidifes my opinion even more.

Of course, I'm not part of the group saying the twins are a "God's gift" car either.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by was385

You're a little behind on the whole situation.

No I'm not, its really more like 60% ownership. I was saying the Chevrolet SS is an old technology vehicle attempting to appear to be brand new. The SS does not compare to the BRZ which is modern technology, granted the BRZ is not as fast as the SS but it is still a better car in general.

[was385]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

No I'm not, its really more like 60% ownership. I was saying the Chevrolet SS is an old technology vehicle attempting to appear to be brand new. The SS does not compare to the BRZ which is modern technology, granted the BRZ is not as fast as the SS but it is still a better car in general.

You know, or like 26%. 6 of one, half dozen of the other though.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8BI0Q020121219

[xwd]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

No I'm not, its really more like 60% ownership. I was saying the Chevrolet SS is an old technology vehicle attempting to appear to be brand new. The SS does not compare to the BRZ which is modern technology, granted the BRZ is not as fast as the SS but it is still a better car in general.

Better car is very dependent on what you are doing with the car. There isn't really anything revolutionary about the BRZ or FR-S either. The SS does achieve almost 50/50 weight distribution.

To me the SS is generally a failure because

1) It's auto only and not even with a good automatic
2) The styling sucks
3) It will probably weigh close to 4000 lbs
4) The price will creep up to $38-45K

[Chimpo]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

The problem with GM is they like to use old technology and just refine it over the years but it's still old technology, they got rid of Pontiac, they like to waste money and then ask for a bailout from the government hence the name government motors and the government owns more than 50% of GM. Hell even the new Corvette Stingray uses a pushrod V8 instead of a DOHC engine, they cut corners every chance they get. Honda makes mostly commuter cars with one sporty car thats lost its magic, Nissan is doing pretty much the same. I have a feeling the GTR and 370Z will be shown the door soon.

I'm not sure I'd bag on the new LT1 engine. Direct injection, variable valve timing, cylinder deactivation (which is why they chose 6.2L displacement so 4 cylinders would be addequate), and estimated 450hp/tq while getting 26mpg highway (my STi never got anywhere near that, and in fact I was only able to get 26mpg using a Cobb eco map while driving like a grandma)... doesn't sound so behind the times to me. And as far as not going DOHC have you seen the heads on a Ford mod-motor? They're huge and on top which is a double whammy of taking up more space (packing) and raising the center of gravity (handling). Yes, push rods are "old tech", but 99.9% of the typical automotive combustion (piston) engines in general are "old tech."