Front bumper air scoop?

[Wolfking]

Originally Posted by pete39sp

I was thinking of putting one were the fog lights would go.

That's great if you don't mind risking hydro induction. A high mount intake port almost eliminates this completely and it's a short /direct air inflow path.

I've actually seen that port in a 350Z. I too believe it may not be car specific.

[pete39sp]

Originally Posted by Wolfking

That's great if you don't mind risking hydro induction. A high mount intake port almost eliminates this completely and it's a short /direct air inflow path.

I've actually seen that port in a 350Z. I too believe it may not be car specific.

Good point! After seeing the fog lights I'm getting some! I'll put the intake some ware safer. But my car stays in on most bad days!

[FasterpromsFRS]

There is no point in this, I cut a bigger hole right where the perforation is at the beginning of the nose, I can hear the intake(stock) sucking so much harder now. An aftermarket hole is not needed imo.

[Shit Luck]

Originally Posted by FasterpromsFRS

There is no point in this, I cut a bigger hole right where the perforation is at the beginning of the nose, I can hear the intake(stock) sucking so much harder now. An aftermarket hole is not needed imo.

its not about noise...
this mod is to lower the air temp at the intake.
somebody posted a log of intake temps between an afe and air raid intake, something like 15 degrees difference at the maf.
this would allow a much cooler air charge to reach the snorkle or filter depending on the intake you are running.

[Tim_Asphalt_FRS]

Originally Posted by Shit Luck

its not about noise...
this mod is to lower the air temp at the intake.
somebody posted a log of intake temps between an afe and air raid intake, something like 15 degrees difference at the maf.
this would allow a much cooler air charge to reach the snorkle or filter depending on the intake you are running.

This.


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[sw20kosh]

This is not necessary if you are using the snorkel to funnel air into the intake (be it stock or aftermarket).

There is no problem with the stock snorkel or its location.

[Shit Luck]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

This is not necessary if you are using the snorkel to funnel air into the intake (be it stock or aftermarket).

There is no problem with the stock snorkel or its location.

you can't tell me that this won't lower intake temps. You really believe the stock s orkle laying in front of the radiator/ on top of the bumper beam is pulling the coolest intake charge possible?????

[FT_Monk]

Yes it will lower the intake temp, But it will also makes the car run like crap.

[Shit Luck]

Originally Posted by FT_Monk

Yes it will lower the intake temp, But it will also makes the car run like crap.

more info?
the maf should calculate for this.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by Shit Luck

you can't tell me that this won't lower intake temps. You really believe the stock s orkle laying in front of the radiator/ on top of the bumper beam is pulling the coolest intake charge possible?????

During the conditions you would WANT lower intake temps (ie moving) the heat from the radiator does not enter the snorkel because it is blown back into the engine bay. The only air it would be inhaling is cool air from the front air dam. Think about it please.

[Shit Luck]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

During the conditions you would WANT lower intake temps (ie moving) the heat from the radiator does not enter the snorkel because it is blown back into the engine bay. The only air it would be inhaling is cool air from the front air dam. Think about it please.

the snorkle is covered by the nose cone the bumper creates.
The radiant heat from the cooling system/engine will have raised the temp of the snorkle and the intake plumbing. Thus heating up the intake charge.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Shit Luck

you can't tell me that this won't lower intake temps. You really believe the stock s orkle laying in front of the radiator/ on top of the bumper beam is pulling the coolest intake charge possible?????

LOL, the air is cold in front of the radiator, not so much behind it.

If an AFE has a delta of about 10 degrees above ambient and doesn't even extend into the bumper (but still sucks air from it), then there isn't much to be gained, temp wise, from this.

[Shit Luck]

here is the info i was talking about..

Originally Posted by 2forme

They have high speed dyno fans for wind simulation.

I've done temperature testing at the intake level on several intakes. The AIRAID is marketed as a CAI and was much hotter than the AFE which extends further towards the bumper hole.



This was done in 3rd on the freeway. Now imagine an SRI that sits even further back toward the motor.

*DISCLAIMER* this is just for comparison purposes, I am not trying to say the AFE is the best intake EVAR!

air raid uses the stock snorkle i beleive.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Shit Luck

here is the info i was talking about..

air raid uses the stock snorkle i beleive.

Those tests were done without the snorkel. The snorkel has been proven to lose around 2-3whp on average. Airaid even suggests removing it for the most "power".