Frs Fog Lights Finally!

[GT 86 Brah]

Originally Posted by maxx1957

Do you guys think scion tc foglights would fit???

only way to find out is if you take off both fog covers then unscrew it then see if it fits on the fr-s.

i googled the TC's fog lights and it looks like they wouldnt really fit. the glass in the front is shaped differently that the subie fogs but theres only 1 way to really find out..

remove one of the tc's fogs
unbolt rivets near the wheel of the fr-s
reach into the gap thats made and push the fog cover out
take tc's fog light and see if it fits the holes


side note: you should order your bezels right now while their cheaper than before

[Sco2355]

Yeah I agree. Order now while the yen is low.

[lbroskee]

can some1 link me to the cheap bezels please? i'd go look, but my internet is like dialup ATM and jus 1 page takes forever to load

[Sco2355]

http://www.amayama.com/

[maxx1957]

Originally Posted by GT 86 Brah

only way to find out is if you take off both fog covers then unscrew it then see if it fits on the fr-s.

i googled the TC's fog lights and it looks like they wouldnt really fit. the glass in the front is shaped differently that the subie fogs but theres only 1 way to really find out..

remove one of the tc's fogs
unbolt rivets near the wheel of the fr-s
reach into the gap thats made and push the fog cover out
take tc's fog light and see if it fits the holes


side note: you should order your bezels right now while their cheaper than before

I'll check, got the bezels today, ordered the harness last night, was just curious about the fogs... Thanks

[norm24]

Looks like the Prius stalk is the same one used in 08-10 Sequoia and Tundra. 84140-0E011 might be our best bet. Who's ready to DIY?

[mezdup]

Originally Posted by Sco2355

http://www.amayama.com/

when you go to checkout, what do you guys put in the Vehicle Information section? i put Toyota Scion 2013 and dunno what to put for frame number/VIN. can't be a good idea to put your VIN right?

edit: oh is it the chassis number? ZN6?

[kmbkk]

Originally Posted by mezdup

when you go to checkout, what do you guys put in the Vehicle Information section? i put Toyota Scion 2013 and dunno what to put for frame number/VIN. can't be a good idea to put your VIN right?

edit: oh is it the chassis number? ZN6?

I just put in "e-mail for VIN."

[mezdup]

Originally Posted by kmbkk

I just put in "e-mail for VIN."

hmm, i put ZN6. we'll see what happens i guess. is it really ok to share your VIN? seems risky to me.

[norm24]

Still researching on fog light switching and ran across this:

Originally Posted by Moto-P

Here's the pin identification if you anyone needs it.

Easiest and the most reliable way to wire the Japanese HID/LED lamps to Scion FRS halogen systems is to pull the pins out of both light assemblies and re-pin them into the proper socket location on the FRS lamp assembly connector. That way all connections are water-proof and original FRS sockets can be used without cutting most of them or tapping them at all, except one pin...
One can easily find another single pin male/female connector for this... I used the aftermarket HID bulb 1 pin waterproof socket as it is commonly available.
To remove the socket pins, you need to simply yank on the white plastic guide-locks to remove it, then finding the pin lock tabs for each one, move it up and pull gently on the wires from the back of the socket.


Japanese HID/LED (GT-Limited) "socket" pins:
#'s correspond to pin position in the 8 pin socket.

1. Not Used (Empty)

2. White - LED High (DRL 3.3W mode, 12V+ *must bypass the resistor on USA FRS to power this)
3. Green - LED Low (12V+ 0.5 w mode)
4. Black 12 Guage - LED Common GND

5. Red (12guage) - HID Ballast 12V +
6. Black (12 guage) - HID Ballast GND

7. Yellow - High Beam bulb position actuator 12+
8. Blue - High Beam bulb position actuator GND

On the USA Scion FRS 6 of the 7 necessary wires are all in the 6 pin socket, and it's a matter of re-pinning the sockets to proper locations. All of them except the pin needed for the DRL (LED-High 3.3w mode) are there.

To wire the DRL properly, pull the DRL resistor located on the right front bumper just below the horn assembly. Tap into the live 12V side of the harness and leave the resistor unplugged so it does not feed the high beam actuator in the Japanese assembly.

This is done because the USA FRS has the high beam bulb doing tha dual role of DRL and HIGH Beam, and Japanese assembly has LED High mode at 3.3 doing the DRL, and is separate from the actual HIGH beam which is done with HID main bulb with bulb position locator shifting the Low beam to high.

Take the live side tapped wire to the LED high 12V wire on the Japanese headlight assembly so you get full 12V, and at the same time leave the socket off the resistor so it does not feed the High Beam actuator with attenuated voltage that normally powers the FRS high side halogen... (yes I said this twice to remind you)...

On the Japanese headlamp, now you should have 6 wires left, after you connected the white to the DRL 12V circuit (with resistor bypassed)

**I'd just simply remove this resistor altogether as you don't want a shop or dealer plugging it back in. The FRS only needs it so it can under-drive a halogen lamp on high beam at lower voltage during DRL. The Japanese system does not use it, as it has a LED array that is designed for this, separate from the HID high beam.

Now you need to use this USA Scion FRS headlight "Harness side" custom socket diagram to put the pins in the right locations for the FRS socket to be used on the Japanese LED lamp to power the system correctly.

USA Scion FRS lamp assembly socket pin (6 Pin connector)

1. Green (High beam) 12V ----> Blue bulb position actuator 12V+
4. White (High beam) GND ---> Yellow bulb position actuator GND

3. Red - (Low beam) 12V------> Red HID Ballast 12V
2. Black - (low beam) GND-----> Black HID ballast GND

5. unused on FRS headlight but pre-wired on the car (parking GND)--------> 16guage Black LED Common GND
6. unused on FRS headlight but pre-wired on the car (parking 12V)--------->Green LED Low 0.5w mode 12V+

*7 not on the headlight socket, wired separately from the live side of the DRL resistor on the FRS DRL line. ------>White (LED High 3.3w mode 12V for DRL)
* leave the resistor disconnected.


Now you should be done.

Check Operation:

Parking lamp on = Low LED light up.
Headlight on = HID Low beam + Low LED light up.
High beam = HID Low and HIGH should now be lit with bulb relocated by actuator into the proper position inside the projector+ LOW LED lit.
Flasher = HID should power with actuator in high beam mode, and upon releasing the High mode LED also flashes for a split second (latter if the headlight is on)
DRL with all light switches in Off and with car in Reverse or Drive Gears, and parking brake down, engine on = DRL mode LED should be lit with full 5.5w really bright.

There you have it. Properly working like a Japanese GT-Limited 86.

See USA FRS lamp assembly, specifically wires 5 and 6. Does this mean I can just tap onto those wires to fire up my fogs???

[FR-ser]

I tried to place a order and it won't accept my email address. I've tried 3 different emails

[mezdup]

Originally Posted by FR-ser

I tried to place a order and it won't accept my email address. I've tried 3 different emails

i think somebody had this issue before. try using a gmail address.

[kmbkk]

Originally Posted by mezdup

hmm, i put ZN6. we'll see what happens i guess. is it really ok to share your VIN? seems risky to me.

I followed the directions from earlier in the thread. My bezels have already shipped and made it to the US, so I'll hopefully see them soon!

[hunter3232792]

just waiting for my harness !

got crazy and decided to install them just for show watting for my harness