FR-S vs. 370z, end all be all of discussions

[iff2mastamatt]

Originally Posted by nate89

Another zombie thread brought back by the noobs...

When the ft-86 had no official specs, the possibilities were endless. These cars are in two different leagues. Though I'm still in the market for both of them, I will ultimately purchase the one of better value, not performance.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by pastuch

My 370z review: I test drove the Canadian Touring model and I was totally disappointed. The new transmission is a lot better than the M6 in the 350z but that's not saying much, the 350z had a horrible transmission. The steering feel was not direct enough and floated at speed. The car felt very heavy in corners and didn't translate any sense of fun to the driver. For all of it's horse power and wonderful exhaust note the car didn't "feel fast". I'm doing over 140kph and I felt like I was crawling.

370 = fail.

I have to admit the G35 coupe was really the best of the cars than Nissan designed...the G37 is just too soft. People keep comparing the FT86 to the Z car...and the Z car is a two seater. They should be comparing it to the Genesis coupe and the G37 coupe.

Or if nissan ever comes out with the next Silvia S15....Nissan has the engine..the 1.6 liter DI turbo...tweak that biotch to 225 HP and put it into a sexy RWD body...and make it weigh about 2700 or less....They could do it...but then sales of the 370Z would drop off like a rock...

But there are two many models of the Z car. There only needs to be 3

370Z base and you can option it out to way you like
370Z Nismo
370Z roadster base and you can option it out to way you like

[pastuch]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

I have to admit the G35 coupe was really the best of the cars than Nissan designed...the G37 is just too soft. People keep comparing the FT86 to the Z car...and the Z car is a two seater. They should be comparing it to the Genesis coupe and the G37 coupe.

Or if nissan ever comes out with the next Silvia S15....Nissan has the engine..the 1.6 liter DI turbo...tweak that biotch to 225 HP and put it into a sexy RWD body...and make it weigh about 2700 or less....They could do it...but then sales of the 370Z would drop off like a rock...

But there are two many models of the Z car. There only needs to be 3

370Z base and you can option it out to what you like
370Z Nismo
370Z roadster base and you can option it out to what you like

I absolutely hated everything about my 2004 G35. Worst car I've ever owned. Horrible reliability, transmission issues and terrible interior... I definitely had a lemon.

[Snoopyalien24]

A Nissan S16 would >2700lbs with 225 hp would be great turbochared and today's tech in a RWD is a dream. SR21DET

[bootlegapparel]

The Z is a medium size, grand tourer/muscle car/sports car.

The FT-86 is specifically designed as a small sports car. It'd be much more comparable to a silvia if they still made them.

You wouldn't compare a silvia so a Z, so I don't see why people would compare a FT-86 to a Z.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by nate89

Another zombie thread brought back by the noobs...

Nate, this is what they are supposed to do so we don't have duplicate threads that get lost.

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

We are THE news source for this car. Everyone on the internet is linking to us.
Everytime we break new info on these cars we're getting a lot of new members joining up.

AT LEAST THESE NEW BATCH OF NOOBS ARE USING THE SEARCH FUNCTION!!!!...

^This.

[dreamspeed]

Originally Posted by bootlegapparel

The Z is a medium size, grand tourer/muscle car/sports car.

The FT-86 is specifically designed as a small sports car. It'd be much more comparable to a silvia if they still made them.

You wouldn't compare a silvia so a Z, so I don't see why people would compare a FT-86 to a Z.

You're right in that the Z is more of a japanese muscle car....and it's heavy...but it's actually a really small car...it just looks big because of the large fenders

370z - Length = 167.1" Width = 72.8"
FR-S - Length = 166.9" Width = 69.8"

[Shevon]

Here is my 2 cents...Direct competitors to me would be any car with similar price, performance specs, weight (not so much weight though). No matter FR, FF, AWD.. so GTI, civic si, Gen coupe, rx8, miata,earlier models--dc2/5. not specifics of class. I'll even go out on a limb and say 90% of us wont even see the track except for the few times u say f it lets find a track and go have a lil fun and thats if a track is even near. We arent pros, just enthusiast, so the whole class thing is a bit deep for all this talk...all about the fun of things.

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by goopi

370z > FR-S.

Depends on your priorities.

The FRS has 4 seats, is lighter, is cheaper, gets better MPG. It ought to handle as well as the Z (if not a bit better) while being more tossable. It might have a nicer shifter and better steering, rev more freely, and be more comfortable (i.e. not beat you up as a daily driver).

370z Advantages: It has more power everywhere (much more low-end), has more grip, and has a hatch.

[fernan2]

Originally Posted by Shevon

Here is my 2 cents...Direct competitors to me would be any car with similar price, performance specs, weight (not so much weight though). No matter FR, FF, AWD.. so GTI, civic si, Gen coupe, rx8, miata,earlier models--dc2/5. not specifics of class.

This^^^^

Also to the new members; is ok to bring old threads back, we like to hear your opinion on stuff.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by Shevon

Here is my 2 cents...Direct competitors to me would be any car with similar price, performance specs, weight (not so much weight though). No matter FR, FF, AWD.. so GTI, civic si, Gen coupe, rx8, miata,earlier models--dc2/5. not specifics of class.

I would add the Focus ST since I am a Ford guy. The new Focus is probably at the limit for acceptable competition though, due to weight. Potentially the next gen Mustang if they successfully Ford Euroize it. But not likely, not with how heavy the base v6 is...

I would also compare it to the BMW compact series but that is Euro only. Those turbo 4 motors they share with the Mini have potential.

Originally Posted by fernan2

This^^^^

Also to the new members; is ok to bring old threads back, we like to hear your opinion on stuff.

^This +1 should be stickied.

[blur]

Speaking of the S15, I think it's the closest comparison we have to he FT86... the only difference is the engine, output and turbo. Everything else is pretty much the same.

I always wanted an s15

[crazyyankeefan]

what makes you think a $25-27k car is gonna have a better or at least equal handling as a $32-35k one? or more comfortable per say? the VQ engine is designed to be a high rev engine. just cuz the Z is heavier, it doesn't mean it can't rev more freely than a lighter FRS.

you pay for what you get. it's just simple as that. FRS should only be viewed as a RWD civis si or RSX

Originally Posted by Deslock

Depends on your priorities.

The FRS has 4 seats, is lighter, is cheaper, gets better MPG. It ought to handle as well as the Z (if not a bit better) while being more tossable. It might have a nicer shifter and better steering, rev more freely, and be more comfortable (i.e. not beat you up as a daily driver).

370z Advantages: It has more power everywhere (much more low-end) and has a hatch.

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by crazyyankeefan

what makes you think a $25-27k car is gonna have a better or at least equal handling as a $32-35k one? or more comfortable per say? the VQ engine is designed to be a high rev engine. just cuz the Z is heavier, it doesn't mean it can't rev more freely than a lighter FRS.

The FT is smaller and lighter, and reportedly handles well so I'm expecting it to be at least as good as the Z in that regard.

The 370z isn't as harsh as the 350z was, but it's still stiff. Because of the FT's lower weight, it might be more comfortable. I'm certainly not expecting it to be less comfortable.

Whether or not the Z's engine revs freely has nothing to do with the vehicle's weight.