follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB

Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB Problems, issues, recalls, TSBs

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-11-2013, 01:58 AM   #1
ravenblackfrs
Senior Member
 
ravenblackfrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Drives: 2013 Raven Black FRS
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Posts: 628
Thanks: 415
Thanked 120 Times in 98 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
TSB's performed

I had my car in for its second oil change, at 8k miles. I asked if there were any TSB's due on my car and the service adviser said "I'm checking that now", he read something on his computer and then said "No, doesn't seem to be any TSB's"

Is there a way to see if a TSB has been performed on your car?

It also took them an hour to change the oil the other day. Either they are extremely slow, or they were doing other things to it. I used to work at pep boys, and I could change oil in 2 vehicles at the same time while mounting and balancing a set of tires.
__________________
Raven FR-S, Magnaflow Axel Back Exhaust, Airaid Intake.... Pending Dynojet for performance gains... Big wish list... just need money to do it!
ravenblackfrs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 02:27 AM   #2
speed6sam
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: SWP BRZ Limited 6 Spd
Location: Orlando
Posts: 65
Thanks: 31
Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
My oil changes tend to take about an hour too. A lot of those techs don't really get to see our cars, so when one comes in they generally like to check it out for a little bit.
speed6sam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 10:00 AM   #3
abutterman
Senior Member
 
abutterman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited - WRB, MT
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,177
Thanks: 58
Thanked 176 Times in 139 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Ive spent 3.5 hours on multiple occasions waiting for an oil change at a dealer with an appointment. If it wasnt free i wouldve raised hell
abutterman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #4
NOHOME
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: RAVEN
Location: LONDON ONTARIO
Posts: 795
Thanks: 86
Thanked 800 Times in 346 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
My dealer had never heard of taillight issues or window problems or second gear crunch issues either. Until I showed him the TSB numbers posted on this site. After that little awkward moment, we moved on.

Had to go in on Saturday to report the second taillight flooding, different service guy... had to start all over again from "Geeeezzzzz never heard of this problem..."
NOHOME is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 11:24 AM   #5
#87
I usually post drunk
 
#87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: BRZ
Location: NY
Posts: 1,487
Thanks: 15
Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
TSBs aren't "Due". The dealer will likely never volunteer TSB to you. The TSB is created and a VIN range specified. They are only performed if a customer complains about the problem in the TSB and it is verified by the tech to exist.

So do your research to see what TSBs exist and if you have the problem bring it to the dealer with a print out.
#87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 01:01 PM   #6
FRiSson
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: FR-S MT
Location: New England
Posts: 1,081
Thanks: 118
Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I haven't found a reliable source for TSB's. The government has a website, as does Edmunds, but neither seem to be up to date.
FRiSson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 01:47 PM   #7
russv
First 86
 
russv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: Scion FRS Argento Automatic
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,127
Thanks: 1,069
Thanked 544 Times in 232 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FRiSson View Post
I haven't found a reliable source for TSB's. The government has a website, as does Edmunds, but neither seem to be up to date.
What do expect from the government-efficiency?
__________________


Life is short...NO BORING CARS
russv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 01:52 PM   #8
Flat Black VW
Senior Member
 
Flat Black VW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ
Location: NOVA
Posts: 894
Thanks: 227
Thanked 343 Times in 202 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FRiSson View Post
I haven't found a reliable source for TSB's. The government has a website, as does Edmunds, but neither seem to be up to date.
I think this site is your best bet
Flat Black VW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 01:52 PM   #9
FRiSson
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: FR-S MT
Location: New England
Posts: 1,081
Thanks: 118
Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by russv View Post
What do expect from the government-efficiency?
The Internal Revenue Service is highly efficient - the envy of the world.

Are you positing that the private sector is efficient? Rarely, in my experience.
FRiSson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 05:38 PM   #10
zc06_kisstherain
 
zc06_kisstherain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: SWP BRZ
Location: NJ
Posts: 3,181
Thanks: 724
Thanked 667 Times in 507 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Garage
I never take it to stealership for an oil change. except major work needs to be done under warranty
zc06_kisstherain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 06:07 PM   #11
ravenblackfrs
Senior Member
 
ravenblackfrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Drives: 2013 Raven Black FRS
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Posts: 628
Thanks: 415
Thanked 120 Times in 98 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain View Post
I never take it to stealership for an oil change. except major work needs to be done under warranty

It was one of the free ones. I might as well take advantage of the freebies, since thats about the only free thing you get from a dealership... lol
__________________
Raven FR-S, Magnaflow Axel Back Exhaust, Airaid Intake.... Pending Dynojet for performance gains... Big wish list... just need money to do it!
ravenblackfrs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 07:10 PM   #12
russv
First 86
 
russv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: Scion FRS Argento Automatic
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,127
Thanks: 1,069
Thanked 544 Times in 232 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FRiSson View Post
The Internal Revenue Service is highly efficient - the envy of the world.

Are you positing that the private sector is efficient? Rarely, in my experience.
Wrong forum for this, but since you asked:
Government has no incentive to be efficient- personal experience with IRS, VA, DMV, and governments TSB website. Private Sector is ALWAYS more efficient as they are incentivized to do so-personal experience.
__________________


Life is short...NO BORING CARS

Last edited by russv; 02-11-2013 at 07:26 PM.
russv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 07:54 PM   #13
HotLava
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Hot Lava 2013 FR-S Automatic
Location: Monrovia, CA
Posts: 93
Thanks: 0
Thanked 40 Times in 22 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by russv View Post
Wrong forum for this, but since you asked:
Government has no incentive to be efficient- personal experience with IRS, VA, DMV, and governments TSB website. Private Sector is ALWAYS more efficient as they are incentivized to do so-personal experience.
You only have efficiency with competition. Private utilites and other quasi-monopolies (like cable companies) are pretty bad to deal with.
HotLava is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 10:07 PM   #14
FRiSson
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: FR-S MT
Location: New England
Posts: 1,081
Thanks: 118
Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by russv View Post
Wrong forum for this, but since you asked:
Government has no incentive to be efficient- personal experience with IRS, VA, DMV, and governments TSB website. Private Sector is ALWAYS more efficient as they are incentivized to do so-personal experience.
How can you mix theory (incentivization), with personal experience. You have skipped over the most important thing, empirical evidence. Private sector industries are rife with inefficiency, otherwise there would be no turnover. Why else do you think that WalMart vanquished Sears, Dell trumped IBM (in PCs). If you look at the top competitive firms of each of the past 10 decades, almost all of them have collapsed, been swallowed up, or have shrunk in size and importance. That's due to the fact that it is extremely difficult to be large and efficient over a sustained period of time. That is why industries almost inevitably focus their energies on limiting competition (through buyouts and mergers) or by asserting oligopolistc control over markets in other ways.

It is way too simplistic just to state that private enterprise is efficient and governments are not, it simply does not hold up under scrutiny.
FRiSson is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TSB's & issues thread zoomzoomers Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 6 09-12-2012 01:20 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.