FT-86 Australian price?

[70NYD]

WOW there IS alot of members here from brisbane
SCORE! we can have club meets haha
im winging about price (and dont get me wrong i have my reasons, i will tell them in a few months when its released), but not just about this car, i am prepared to buy it if its REASONABLE (30-35 sounds reasonable) IFF (thats if and only if) BUT im just saying how we get shafted here for everything. if the cars were the same prices here as they are in the states, id have a mx5 and a rx8 for the weekends and a 3 for work.. yeah i love my mazdas and i love cars, i just hate how we need to shell out more than nearly any other country in the world compared to our average income.

[Hawx]

im winging about price (and dont get me wrong i have my reasons, i will tell them in a few months when its released), but not just about this car, i am prepared to buy it if its REASONABLE (30-35 sounds reasonable) IFF (thats if and only if) BUT im just saying how we get shafted here for everything. if the cars were the same prices here as they are in the states, id have a mx5 and a rx8 for the weekends and a 3 for work.. yeah i love my mazdas and i love cars, i just hate how we need to shell out more than nearly any other country in the world compared to our average income.

+ 1 on that. I know I complained about this a page or two before but If the Aussie $ is equal to and if not greater than the US $. Why is it that stuff like cars are more expensive for us then in the US by a large margin?? I'm yet to meet someone who can explain why.

[Nardi330]

maybe Subaru doesn't bring BRZ in and we can get it cheaper via SEVS.

[70NYD]

thats exactly what im talking about hawx. well its not that simple, i understand that shipping plays a part in in but DAMN i know it doesnt THAT much.
so nardi, it seems that since there are a few members in brisbane, we can all import the brzs together and get it cheaper shiping

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by Hawx

+ 1 on that. I know I complained about this a page or two before but If the Aussie $ is equal to and if not greater than the US $. Why is it that stuff like cars are more expensive for us then in the US by a large margin?? I'm yet to meet someone who can explain why.

a few reasons:

- tax here is higher;
- population/sale volume is lower hence cost to setup/run a distribution network per car sold will be higher, these costs are passed onto the consumers;
- we are used to paying high price for cars so the manufacturers can rip us off;
- shipping cost is higher becos of the volume of trade/shipping are much less;

etc

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by 70NYD

so nardi, it seems that since there are a few members in brisbane, we can all import the brzs together and get it cheaper shiping

sure. we just imported a Cube and we have contacts to buy cars in Japan and arrange import approval/shipping etc. we just need to wait till a RAW can do the compliance.

[70NYD]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

a few reasons:

- tax here is higher;
- population/sale volume is lower hence cost to setup/run a distribution network per car sold will be higher, these costs are passed onto the consumers;
- we are used to paying high price for cars so the manufacturers can rip us off;
- shipping cost is higher becos of the volume of trade/shipping are much less;

etc

And there are the things I never take in to consideration. I don't think about sale volumes. But I still hate the ripoff part lol

[70NYD]

Why do we need to do a raw? The car will be 99% same as the Toyota one?

[Gir]

Originally Posted by Hawx

+ 1 on that. I know I complained about this a page or two before but If the Aussie $ is equal to and if not greater than the US $. Why is it that stuff like cars are more expensive for us then in the US by a large margin?? I'm yet to meet someone who can explain why.

Because Australian Average income is almost twice as much as US average income. It's basically how inflation works.

I'm personally really looking forward to this car, willing to spend up to 45k on road for a top spec. If it ends up being much more then that, I'll go back to my original plan of an e46 M3.

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by 70NYD

Why do we need to do a raw? The car will be 99% same as the Toyota one?

without a RAW, who is going to comply the car?

we need a RAW to apply import approval, do the compliance and fix a plate to get rego. also a RAW needs to prepare all the paper work to get the car approved by DOTARS for importation under SEVS

Toyota (or Subaru) isn't gonna do that.

alternative you will need to import under personal import and thats gonna be hard.

[70NYD]

No I meant that the cars are exactly the same, it's not a completely different car and the Toyota is getting released. But I see what your saying, and I'm probably wrong.
And Gir, while the average income might be larger, the spread isnt the same, ie Australian middle-upper salary (it's deviation) isn't twice as much as American, and more deviations you go, more times larger American salary becomes than Australian, while their costs stay still smaller

[Nardi330]

Yes both are "near" identical cars but we are trying for the loophole here and must claim they are not the same car. If they are the same car then BRZ is not eligible for SEVS.

[Devie]

Surely a different badge will count?

[Nardi330]

Well as an example, JDM Civic Type R (FD2R) is not eligible as our Civic Sport (FD2) are "too close".....

Any car that's "close" to an aus delivered model is not eligible (there are exception like R35 GTR and vw scirocco). However being sold with 2 different brands (hopefully with 2 diff chassis codes) may work into our favor but DOTARS are not stupid so will see how it goes.