The Nasty FR-S Review Part 2

[steve87j]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

The way he exaggerates the negatives is the dark horse of his reviews. He's not out to get our approval as a reviewer (at least I hope he isn't). He tries to tug on our heart strings, stir up controversy. He even blatantly puts "nasty" in the title. So his reviews are not to be taken seriously (at least I don't think). Maybe he could work on delivering his sarcasm in a way that's a bit more obvious? But if it is supposed to be taken completely seriously and he's giving us his holistic view, then (in that case) yeah it's pretty awful. lol

I think it's just his personality. Like the scene with the minivan. Sure it's sarcastic but not in a humoristic way. The "delivery" is just poor. He is a very timid mono-toned individual mixed with sarcasm equals less to be desired sentences to ones ear.

This video was very serious that's what I'm saying he isn't just trying to stir up controversy because he invest way to much time trying to backup his statements.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

Also, a video made by an unhappy FRS owner (whether legitimately unhappy or not) is not unbiased. If you spent less time gawking at his girlfriend you would see this. I don't think even Dezoris would claim he is completely unbiased.

Scott

You're absolutely right, unbiased was the incorrect word. I guess it's just refreshing instead of the majority of complete love or the minority abhorrent negativity to see something that lands kind of in the middle (again did you watch it? I still think the review ended up mostly positive because I couldn't give a shit about most of his negatives). I didn't see him bashing anything that didn't deserve some criticism.

I think the unsolicited opinion of a fellow owner carries a bit more weight long term than a journalist that drove it for a week at most. You can determine for yourself whether or not it adds value to the conversation but I am of the feeling that any dissenting opinion is worth listening to at least once.

:happy0180:

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

I watch Dezoris' reviews with a friendly smirk. Some people get butt hurt when he disproportionately focuses the shortcomings (which there are). But all other reviews have already said the good stuff so watching someone poke fun at this car with a dose of honesty is different and entertaining. Otherwise, it'd be another bland review. If you look past the sarcasm, it's evident that he's just another owner who loves this car like we do.

Here's a pearl of wisdom for you...

"Be careful about mistaking genuine contempt for sarcasm. If you keep it up, you will quickly become the butt of everyone else's jokes and never know it."

Scott - 2013

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

You're absolutely right, unbiased was the incorrect word. I guess it's just refreshing instead of the majority of complete love or the minority abhorrent negativity to see something that lands kind of in the middle (again did you watch it? I still think the review ended up mostly positive because I couldn't give a shit about most of his negatives). I didn't see him bashing anything that didn't deserve some criticism.

I think the unsolicited opinion of a fellow owner carries a bit more weight long term than a journalist that drove it for a week at most. You can determine for yourself whether or not it adds value to the conversation but I am of the feeling that any dissenting opinion is worth listening to at least once.

:happy0180:

I thought it was pretty obvious by this point... yes. I watched this one and his last one. In fact, when he posted his first one here, I recall he received many of the same comments from me and others.

Read my post advising Dezoris to change the format of his video to aim it directly at Toyota and Subaru and tell me again which format you feel would contribute more to the conversation here.

Scott

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

Read my post advising Dezoris to change the format of his video to aim it directly at Toyota and Subaru and tell me again which format you feel would contribute more to the conversation here.

Scott

I feel that him saying "Hey Toyobaru, you should fix the following issues, it rains on the parade of owning this car" does not change the message or the conversation that we're having. Do you think that him adding that would make giant corporations sit up and notice? Do you feel that he is attacking your personal choices and opinions through this video? I'm not sure how "directing the video to Toyota and Subaru" would "contribute more".

:happy0180:

[bakerr6]

Originally Posted by serith

It's still embarrassing to have your doors blown in by a soccer mom. I know people that own this car will defend it's lack of power, but can't we all agree that it would be nice if it put down a little more to the wheels?

As much as I thought I wanted this car, I'm leaning more towards a WRX every day. Same amount of money, AWD, more usable space, and it will set you back in your seat.

my brother lives in syracuse. If you want to see what this car is all about, hit me up in april or may, and I'll take you for a nice ride up there haha

[kludger]

Fun review with good points, though I think you focus too much on the negatives and had some bad luck with the early run problems (taillights, CEL) that many of us haven't encountered but I agree with your points about it being ridiculous that the replacement parts took too long or didn't fix the problem. Maybe in time when we see that people aren't having those first run problems and the parts supply problems aren't there you will consider updating your reviews.

Overall though I agree with your final comments, this is a really fun car to drive and for the price I don't think there's anything as fun (just look at the similar spec Dodge Dart)

[brzninja]

GRAWR I'M SO ANGRY YOU HAVE SOME NEGATIVE OPINIONS ABOUT THE CAR I LOVE!

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

Here's a pearl of wisdom for you...

"Be careful about mistaking genuine contempt for sarcasm. If you keep it up, you will quickly become the butt of everyone else's jokes and never know it."

Scott - 2013

Let me ask you this: Do you seriously think Dezoris has contempt for his $25k investment? Do you think he put hours of work into shooting/editing a video dedicated to his car because he hates his car? Considering the few minutes you spend typing to attack his hours of work, I will respect his earnest work more than your words; I'm cool with being the butt of your jokes.

It's funny how people are suddenly expert auto journalists who know the correct way to shoot a video review. A guy is entitled to his opinion. No matter how many ways you try to prove his opinion wrong, it's futile because you can only disprove facts (not opinions). If you already stated how your opinions disagree with his opinions about the car, why can't you leave it at that? Now we're debating over a guy's internet hyperbole and flair? Where's the point in that? Is it necessary to attack the person? I'm having a hard time figuring out what else you're all trying to prove. Please help me out here. This seems to be escalating into a pathetic circle jerk in which everyone is jockeying for some cred. Until you shoot a video response showing us your "correct" way to review, I say Dezoris has far more interwebz cred than you.

[yormaX]

Love this guy! Thanks for making part 2!

[iketeru]

I thought both part 1/2 were great. I sort of cringed at the loss to the minivan since I'm waiting for my FR-S still and haven't driven one personally, but the review was honest enough to prepare me for what to really expect with the car. looking forward to more videos!

[BlaineWasHere]

OH NO SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE THE FR-S?!?!!? HOW COULD THEY?


Please ask my how many fucks I give? Why would anyone assume that everyone will like everything? Asinine.

[BlaineWasHere]

Also if you want to be depressed go race a new Kia Optima putting down 280WHP/260WTQ with just a ECU flash... Yep Kia can blow your doors off too...

I just race everyone on the skid pad so I'm set.

[GNS]

I think the real problem is how the fuck a fish climbs a tree without asphyxiating.