2014 C7 Chevrolet Corvette

[RogerR]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Morgan would be happy to sell you....oh wait. Never mind.

I did say volume. Yes, Morgan is the largest British car company but the volume is still rather low.

[Dimman]

^ Chuckled.


Then I got a bit sad...

[bakerr6]

I'm going to join also. I know the next vehicle we have to buy is a truck (wife's SUV tows the boat atm), but then I can probably buy another toy haha.

I'm never getting rid of the fr-s though. Perfect first car for my kid(s) if I ever have any

[swift996]

TRASH!!

2014 and still using push rods and rear leaf suspension. What exactly are you paying for? If I want a fast boat, I'll buy one that floats.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by swift996

TRASH!!

2014 and still using push rods and rear leaf suspension. What exactly are you paying for? If I want a fast boat, I'll buy one that floats.

Either you haven't followed this thread, or you haven't understood what you read.

BTW, composite leaf spring at the front as well as rear.

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by swift996

TRASH!!

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

[GTB/ZR-1]

Originally Posted by swift996

TRASH!!

LOL

Whatever...

[swift996]

I haven't been following, just pointing out the obvious. I want my performance solution to be engineered. The new C7 tells the story of exactly why GM will fail again. They think this gimmick retro look will wow baby boomers with discretionary accounts.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by swift996

I haven't been following, just pointing out the obvious. I want my performance solution to be engineered. The new C7 tells the story of exactly why GM will fail again. They think this gimmick retro look will wow baby boomers with discretionary accounts.

the thing is, you see, is that for a car to go fast around track it needs to only accomplish two things

push the damn thing and make sure it sticks

as much as i agree that using leaf springs and just having a ton of displacement isn't every exciting, it is, unfortunately, a really good way to make something that fits the above requirements.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by swift996

I haven't been following, just pointing out the obvious.

What is "obvious" to you is, well, just wrong...

I want my performance solution to be engineered.

To discount design solutions out of hand because in your limited understanding you don't consider them "worthy" is not "engineering".

450hp from a compact 450 lb. engine: Yay large-displacement pushrod OHV aluminum V8.
Whatever desired spring rate, with less weight, situated lower, also providing some anti-roll (reducing required front bar size, eliminating requirement for rear bar on base model => further weight savings): Yay composite leaf springs.

Yay C7 engineering

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

as much as i agree that using leaf springs and just having a ton of displacement isn't every exciting,

How is using coil springs, which practically EVERY car uses (including Prii, Corollas, and the-most-boring-car-you-can-think-of) "very exciting"?
Regarding a ton of displacement, let me take you on an acceleration run in the RX-7 and you can tell me how unexciting that is

it is, unfortunately, a really good way to make something that fits the above requirements.

Why is it "unfortunate" that there are MULTIPLE different solutions to the same goals of going fast in a straight line and going fast around corners?

Viva variete!

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by swift996

I haven't been following, just pointing out the obvious. I want my performance solution to be engineered. The new C7 tells the story of exactly why GM will fail again. They think this gimmick retro look will wow baby boomers with discretionary accounts.

I am not a Porsche fan.. So I am biased.. But please tell me from a design aspect anything "fresh" from Porsche.. It's a slight evolution in every model since the first.. Heritage from the beetle .. Blah... Yeah they are fast around a track.. But I think Porsche fans hate the fact a cheaper vette beats them all the time with that "boat" technology

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by swift996

I want my performance solution to be engineered.

What do you think of the engineering of suspensions on all three of your cars (TRASH!! 2013 and still using struts...)?

Because most diehard track enthusiasts with expertise in suspension design would consider struts to be a much bigger negative vs. double-wishbones all around (which the C5, C6, and C7 have), than using leaf springs vs. coils (which, as explained in painful detail in this thread, isn't really a negative).

Personally, I don't have anything *major* against struts, they can certainly be engineered to work very well indeed. But to someone who recoils (pun) at the thought of leaf springs (which don't impact suspension geometry), struts must make you want to fricking puke!

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Trim levels and options.

YAY, navigation is optional on the 1LT and 2LT trim levels.

Curious that the car comes with a full-painted roof, and the visible center section roof is optional. We have yet to see a full painted roof, right?

The way they have things phrased with the seats implies the base seats are perhaps vinyl, as it's not until the 2LT it says "Performance Leather GT seats". Of course, figgin' typical, the good seats with actual bolstering are late availability.

Anyone notice the carbon fiber interior trim is optional? I wonder what the base trim looks like? Kinda scared it'll be awful cheap plastic. Please Chevy don't make it look like base/rental-car trim.

Super disappointed that GM is perpetuating the use of chrome wheels. I was hoping the lip service about pandering to a younger generation wasn't strictly cheap talk. The dealer installed matched luggage is cute to impress the soon-to-be ex-Mrs.

Looks like waiting for a 1LT with "competition" seats and Z51 is the way to go for the performance enthusiast. From what I can tell, all the reveal press cars were 2LT with Competition seats + Z51 + Mag-ride + visible carbon roof + carbon interior pack. Ka Ching no doubt.