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coyote · 10-30-2011, 08:57 PM

http://blog.privatefleet.com.au/car-comparison-data/

PuGZoR · 10-31-2011, 11:10 PM

TBH, I'm a bit worried now. I reckon that spec sheet was a sales training sheet, and if Toyota think that it's main competition is going to be the MX5, RX8 and CR-Z then we're looking at around a 50k min. Cheapest MX5 is around 48k, RX8 is around 60k, and CR-Z doesn't have a price yet but I reckon it'll be late 40's (given that it's a "sport" hybrid).

I have to say, if it comes out more than 40k then there's no way I'll be shelling out for it. I've followed this for 3 years but 40k is too much. I'd wait for the price to come down or I'd just pay an extra few grand for a WRX (as bad as that sounds).

Nardi330 · 10-31-2011, 11:44 PM

direct competitor would be MX5. Mazda sets crazy markup becos of the lack of competition and convertible is usually more expensive.

i think they throw the RX8 in there as a brenchmark.

however i wouldn't be surprised if they priced it like a FN2R tho. if Toyota is smart, they should bring a base model for $35k + orc and a higher model for $40k + orc.

coyote · 10-31-2011, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuGZoR

I'd just pay an extra few grand for a WRX (as bad as that sounds).

You'd be better off buying a 400hp Liberty.

;-)

farugah · 11-01-2011, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyote

You'd be better off buying a 400hp Liberty.

;-)

You can get them 400hp stock? Mines 250hp NA I might be able to push 400hp with a supercharger...

4point8 · 11-01-2011, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuGZoR

I have to say, if it comes out more than 40k then there's no way I'll be shelling out for it. I've followed this for 3 years but 40k is too much. I'd wait for the price to come down or I'd just pay an extra few grand for a WRX (as bad as that sounds).

Same here except I'll just buy a bike and keep my current car for a bit longer.

Considering a top of the range Aurion is about $45000, I'm hoping the the base model will be around ~34k and the high spec about ~38k. Hoping

PuGZoR · 11-01-2011, 10:53 PM

Although I know this is completely chalk and cheese, an SS Commodore is under 40k these days... WRX is around 44k...

Base model for around $34-35k and top model for $36-$38k would be reasonable. I don't think the top model has that much in it to command too much of a premium on the base, going on the JDM model specs. Of course if they manage to get the base model down to around $32k I'd be very happy. Considering a Rukus is a low volume import that Toyota sells, has a 2.4L donk, and has a pretty nice interior, and has a top figure of $32k, this is a real possibility to me. IMHO they're going to sell a lot more FT86's than Rukii if they can keep that price down.

farugah · 11-01-2011, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuGZoR

Although I know this is completely chalk and cheese, an SS Commodore is under 40k these days... WRX is around 44k...

While technically they are, but when you look at the demographic of Australia that look at 'sporty' cars they will see '$40k' 200hp and go well hell I can get a V8 for less, V8's are awesome, 'sporty' and my neighbour has one.

70NYD · 11-01-2011, 11:54 PM

im still hoping that the price stays in the low 30s (read LOW 30s) for the base and high 30s (read not top of the 30s) for the top, cus im willing to pay 32-38 for this car on road, not 40-45.. i know it seems like splitting hairs there, but 38 is my cutoff. it has been since day one :p
in the end i can still import

Slide · 11-02-2011, 01:50 AM

i guess you forgot this!

http://86-club.com/price1.html

http://86-club.com/price.html

We are going to get rolled in Price.

I can see this costing more then a GTI for it if you add any TRD parts :s

coyote · 11-02-2011, 05:00 AM

Slide,

Dealerships will have no idea how much these things will cost at this point.

That won't stop them from taking a deposit. They'd take a deposit on a space shuttle if you were willing to put one down.

PuGZoR · 11-02-2011, 06:23 AM

I have to agree with coyote... I don't think dealers have any idea yet, not 6 months out from launch. I've said it before; I was told by Toyota at the motor show this year that it'll be mid 30's for the base...

I'd say that that dealer there was told too that it'll start in the 30's, so they've gone "well if we say $39,990 we're not going to get caught out, and we get monies now and tie them to buying from us and not another dealership who'll do a better deal".

Not saying I'm definitely right, just until I hear something actually from Toyota I'd prefer my own deductions.

You're right though Slide, I think there is a real good chance we'll get shafted. My bank account would love this to be the case, but it'll make me pretty devo for quite a while!

Slide · 11-02-2011, 02:19 PM

Even if its mid 30k make will be 40k driveaway with no options is the point I want to try get across.

celicajim · 11-02-2011, 07:50 PM

Will be interesting to see what options will be available to us here.
TRD Australia kind of fell in a heap, will we see any of the TRD upgrades as options?
How much will these options add to the price?
I've seen a few things that would be nice, might be hard to not add some of the options to keep the price down.

11-01-2011, 11:54 PM	#121
70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	im still hoping that the price stays in the low 30s (read LOW 30s) for the base and high 30s (read not top of the 30s) for the top, cus im willing to pay 32-38 for this car on road, not 40-45.. i know it seems like splitting hairs there, but 38 is my cutoff. it has been since day one :p in the end i can still import __________________

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10-30-2011, 08:57 PM	#113
coyote Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Slowly Location: brisbane.qld.au Posts: 1,064 Thanks: 212 Thanked 539 Times in 235 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	http://blog.privatefleet.com.au/car-comparison-data/

10-31-2011, 11:10 PM	#114
PuGZoR Long time obsessor Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: AE86 & depressing SUV Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 230 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	TBH, I'm a bit worried now. I reckon that spec sheet was a sales training sheet, and if Toyota think that it's main competition is going to be the MX5, RX8 and CR-Z then we're looking at around a 50k min. Cheapest MX5 is around 48k, RX8 is around 60k, and CR-Z doesn't have a price yet but I reckon it'll be late 40's (given that it's a "sport" hybrid). I have to say, if it comes out more than 40k then there's no way I'll be shelling out for it. I've followed this for 3 years but 40k is too much. I'd wait for the price to come down or I'd just pay an extra few grand for a WRX (as bad as that sounds).

10-31-2011, 11:44 PM	#115
Nardi330 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 2,168 Thanks: 287 Thanked 374 Times in 264 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	direct competitor would be MX5. Mazda sets crazy markup becos of the lack of competition and convertible is usually more expensive. i think they throw the RX8 in there as a brenchmark. however i wouldn't be surprised if they priced it like a FN2R tho. if Toyota is smart, they should bring a base model for $35k + orc and a higher model for $40k + orc.

11-01-2011, 10:53 PM	#119
PuGZoR Long time obsessor Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: AE86 & depressing SUV Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 230 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Although I know this is completely chalk and cheese, an SS Commodore is under 40k these days... WRX is around 44k... Base model for around $34-35k and top model for $36-$38k would be reasonable. I don't think the top model has that much in it to command too much of a premium on the base, going on the JDM model specs. Of course if they manage to get the base model down to around $32k I'd be very happy. Considering a Rukus is a low volume import that Toyota sells, has a 2.4L donk, and has a pretty nice interior, and has a top figure of $32k, this is a real possibility to me. IMHO they're going to sell a lot more FT86's than Rukii if they can keep that price down.

11-02-2011, 01:50 AM	#122
Slide Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: Toyota Aristo Location: Brisbane,Aust Posts: 796 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i guess you forgot this! http://86-club.com/price1.html http://86-club.com/price.html We are going to get rolled in Price. I can see this costing more then a GTI for it if you add any TRD parts :s

11-02-2011, 05:00 AM	#123
coyote Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Slowly Location: brisbane.qld.au Posts: 1,064 Thanks: 212 Thanked 539 Times in 235 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Slide, Dealerships will have no idea how much these things will cost at this point. That won't stop them from taking a deposit. They'd take a deposit on a space shuttle if you were willing to put one down.

11-02-2011, 06:23 AM	#124
PuGZoR Long time obsessor Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: AE86 & depressing SUV Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 230 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have to agree with coyote... I don't think dealers have any idea yet, not 6 months out from launch. I've said it before; I was told by Toyota at the motor show this year that it'll be mid 30's for the base... I'd say that that dealer there was told too that it'll start in the 30's, so they've gone "well if we say $39,990 we're not going to get caught out, and we get monies now and tie them to buying from us and not another dealership who'll do a better deal". Not saying I'm definitely right, just until I hear something actually from Toyota I'd prefer my own deductions. You're right though Slide, I think there is a real good chance we'll get shafted. My bank account would love this to be the case, but it'll make me pretty devo for quite a while!

11-02-2011, 02:19 PM	#125
Slide Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: Toyota Aristo Location: Brisbane,Aust Posts: 796 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Even if its mid 30k make will be 40k driveaway with no options is the point I want to try get across.

11-02-2011, 07:50 PM	#126
celicajim Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: ZZT231 Celica Location: Australia Posts: 65 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Will be interesting to see what options will be available to us here. TRD Australia kind of fell in a heap, will we see any of the TRD upgrades as options? How much will these options add to the price? I've seen a few things that would be nice, might be hard to not add some of the options to keep the price down.

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