I knew the stupid auto windows would bite me.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by NOHOME

Dealer says it was designed to do that for my own good. I should monitor it and reprogram windows as needed. Nothing wrong with car.

Have you verified this with Corporate? I've had mine in well below zero temps and not seen it do this.

[Dezoris]

Take the blue protective film off the door sill metal, FYI or it will start to rust/corrode from the water. I learned the hard way, having the same issue as you.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Have you verified this with Corporate? I've had mine in well below zero temps and not seen it do this.

Mine just did this yesterday stayed down after I closed the door. And I did not have flashing lights on the switches.

[jstn]

Honestly that doesn't look right at all. My windows do the same thing but they don't stay down nearly that far.

[chenshuo]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

Take the blue protective film off the door sill metal, FYI or it will start to rust/corrode from the water. I learned the hard way, having the same issue as you.

what blue protective film?

[Grey]

Originally Posted by NOHOME

You guys don't get it, the little routine that the window does when you open and close the door? In cold weather it is designed to stay down. That's what you see in the first picture. Not all the time, but often enough.

What? The window should never stay down.

[wbradley]

I have difficulty with the temperature dependent feature explanation. It seems to elaborate to be true and with thousands of owners on this forum it has never previously been discussed and I don't recall anything to this effect in the manual. And that's a run on sentence.

I think more likely when you close the door if there is ice in the rubber seal and resistance is detected against the window it might not close fully. Then again I am not looking at the manual or asking the dealer. I'd guess my dealer wouldn't even know about it like they didn't know about the fuel pump noise.

[Dezoris]

Its on the pedals and metal door sills from factory, it peels off. It "appears" it is still on his car. But could be his camera phone making it appear blue.

[mrlewistan]

You can disable it by pulling out the relay I tgink

[NOHOME]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

Mine just did this yesterday stayed down after I closed the door. And I did not have flashing lights on the switches.

You wont be seeing any flashing lights because you just stepped out of the car and closed the door. IF you happen to notice that the window stayed in the down position, you get back in the car and do the down-up reprogram shuffle. I do it about one a week.

If you DON'T happen to notice and it rains, then you get wet. While you are at it, don't forget to walk to the passenger side and make sure that that side is up.

The car was designed this way so that if any resistance was felt on the window motor, it would stay in the down position. Seems like it does not take much for the logic to kick in.

The dealers reaction is much the same as some of the asshats on this board who assume I have not read the manual or how to clear snow off my car. "Learn to check the windows when you get out and reprogram as needed". Just the kind of help I need.

The good news is that if I am willing to modify the electrics, there is a workaround.

[Steve]

I've left my window in the "down" position most of the winter so far, as it gets stuck almost everyday parking outside. When the door is closed a seal is still made, at least on my car. It's been rained on and snowed on multiple times and I have not noticed any water/snow getting in the car.

From looking at the photos, that amount of snow in your car and the gap between your window and door, it looks like your window had to have been lower than the "down" position of the feature.

Not trying to call BS, just sharing my experience with the same issue and bafflement with the photos.

[Braces]

Originally Posted by wbradley

I have difficulty with the temperature dependent feature explanation. It seems to elaborate to be true and with thousands of owners on this forum it has never previously been discussed and I don't recall anything to this effect in the manual. And that's a run on sentence.

I think more likely when you close the door if there is ice in the rubber seal and resistance is detected against the window it might not close fully. Then again I am not looking at the manual or asking the dealer. I'd guess my dealer wouldn't even know about it like they didn't know about the fuel pump noise.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

Not trying to disagree with the OP, but am I to understand that this window down position occurs automatically in cold weather. WHY?????

What is the point? The windows automatically go down a little during door closure to prevent damage to the window and/or molding due to the compressed air in the cabin.

[Rayme]

Theres a 5 min fix I posted in the DIY. Basicly bypass the door switch. I did that about 2 months ago and never had a problem since.

www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25229

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Braces

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

Not trying to disagree with the OP, but am I to understand that this window down position occurs automatically in cold weather. WHY?????

What is the point? The windows automatically go down a little during door closure to prevent damage to the window and/or molding due to the compressed air in the cabin.

Listen. It's not a feature that activates in the cold, it's a feature that activates when the window's freeze to the seals or the motors encounter resistance...which happens in the cold! My car's been in single digits and frozen over from ice rain and my windows still haven't jammed like this. So it's not a cold weather feature as much as it is to save your windows (frameless windows roll down to seal, or you could break them when they hit the outside of the seal) and motors.