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Pure Automotive · 01-16-2013, 11:06 AM

The problem I've ran into, is that most universal oil sandwich plates don't fit with the stock oil filter housing because of the lip. The Perrin kit uses a stand that raises the filter location up above the lip.

ultra · 01-16-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by robispec

well being a fan of extra credit we went to an "overkill cooling solution" stock radiator is 15mm core we replace this with 2 25mm tube core add a liquid to liquid oil cooler in the "cold side tank" and have less than 2 feet of total lines to complete the whole "kit".
The best thing about this is that you dont need to thermostaticly control the oil temp (a big potential problem with the Air to liquid cooler solutions) as the water thermostat does this for you and actually heats the oil faster during warm up then stabilizes it to run about 20-30 degrees hotter than the water temp. this is better in many ways than the current kits on the market.
1. lighter overall
2. short hose runs,minimal resistance to flow = no extra strain on the stock oil pump
3. "fixes" the Water cooling issues sure to develop with the stock radiator.
4. Uses existing cooling airflow and leaves fender locations for brake ducting
5. With low profile fans ADDS space in front of the engine for turbo/SC piping

More on this please Robi. When & how much? Stop being such a big tease!

Dave-ROR · 01-16-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pure Automotive

The problem I've ran into, is that most universal oil sandwich plates don't fit with the stock oil filter housing because of the lip. The Perrin kit uses a stand that raises the filter location up above the lip.

Which Mocal makes one... HKS and Greddy also make one but they may be rebranded Mocal.

I'll hopefully be doing a DIY on an oil cooler on mine in the next few weeks using mostly parts I have laying around. Mine will be front mounted as I currently don't plan on a switch to FI anytime soon.

Pure Automotive · 01-16-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Which Mocal makes one... HKS and Greddy also make one but they may be rebranded Mocal.

I'll hopefully be doing a DIY on an oil cooler on mine in the next few weeks using mostly parts I have laying around. Mine will be front mounted as I currently don't plan on a switch to FI anytime soon.

Thank you so much, I have been looking everywhere to find one that they sell by itself! I'll be making my own kit as well, and I have a couple of customers that are interested in the same.

TAP Auto Parts · 01-16-2013, 02:30 PM

These cars run hot. If you track your car and its NA an oil cooler is almost required, so with forced induction we highly recommend it.

bestwheelbase · 01-16-2013, 02:44 PM

@Pure Automotive check out BAT Inc.

FRSPirate · 01-16-2013, 04:09 PM

Thanks bestwheelbase. After reading all the responses and finding the following i might go the build my own route as well. So others can see what Dave Pure and Best are talking about here is the page from BATs catalog:

Dave-ROR · 01-16-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSPirate

Thanks bestwheelbase. After reading all the responses and finding the following i might go the build my own route as well. So others can see what Dave Pure and Best are talking about here is the page from BATs catalog:

I'll be assembling my setup next week if all goes well.

robispec · 01-17-2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ultra

More on this please Robi. When & how much? Stop being such a big tease!

here is the BEST solution...
system out of the car

can use stock A/C with this.
NO cutting plastec to mount
Cold air over the top as needed
STOCK mounting points used
OVER TRIPLE THE COOLING CAPACITY and an extra Qt of engine oil.
takes 2 hours to install
total system cost Radiator oilcooler takeoff plates hoses, an fittings, fans
EVERYTHING INCLUDED for John Q Public to install $1,195.00
Will be doing a Group buy soon..

Robi

robispec · 01-17-2013, 12:41 AM

ROBISPEC. Lol. Had a local radiator manufature build it

rice_classic · 01-17-2013, 12:41 AM

Nothing about that looks like a $1200 solution.

I apologize for any offense that may yield in advance.

JoeBoxer · 01-17-2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Nothing about that looks like a $1200 solution.

I apologize for any offense that may yield in advance.

I disagree, prepackaged oil cooler kits are 700-900 and with this you get a new radiator and fans also, triple the coolant capacity and another quart of oil. If I was going turbo and tracking that would be my choice for an all an one cooling solution.

JoeBoxer · 01-17-2013, 01:29 AM

Fan mounting and wiring could be prettier but this is functional, nobody is going to see most of it and a little tech flex on the wires will clean it up.

robispec · 01-17-2013, 01:37 AM

Agreed. Prototype. Will be much cleaner for the production parts.
For those kits that mount forward of the engine these fans give about an ” of extra room.

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01-16-2013, 04:09 PM	#35
FRSPirate Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 13 Scion FRS Raven M/T, 05 Raven R6 Location: Ventura Co. CA Posts: 128 Thanks: 167 Thanked 54 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	Thanks bestwheelbase. After reading all the responses and finding the following i might go the build my own route as well. So others can see what Dave Pure and Best are talking about here is the page from BATs catalog: __________________ -Alex 05 Raven R6 13 Raven FRS M/T

01-17-2013, 12:41 AM	#39
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,176 Thanks: 758 Thanked 4,216 Times in 1,810 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s)	Nothing about that looks like a $1200 solution. I apologize for any offense that may yield in advance. __________________ PRO86 \| STL \| LuckyDog

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Pure Automotive Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Whiteout Location: Millersville, MD Posts: 2,035 Thanks: 735 Thanked 1,952 Times in 650 Posts Mentioned: 147 Post(s)	The problem I've ran into, is that most universal oil sandwich plates don't fit with the stock oil filter housing because of the lip. The Perrin kit uses a stand that raises the filter location up above the lip.

01-16-2013, 02:30 PM	#33
TAP Auto Parts Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: FRS Location: Las Vegas Posts: 303 Thanks: 442 Thanked 104 Times in 74 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	These cars run hot. If you track your car and its NA an oil cooler is almost required, so with forced induction we highly recommend it.

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bestwheelbase Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 1985 P-Type Location: Nashville, TN, USA Posts: 3,710 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 2,058 Times in 1,098 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s)	@Pure Automotive check out BAT Inc.

01-17-2013, 12:41 AM	#38
robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s)	ROBISPEC. Lol. Had a local radiator manufature build it

01-17-2013, 01:29 AM	#41
JoeBoxer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Whiteout FR-S Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,154 Thanks: 1,666 Thanked 1,627 Times in 997 Posts Mentioned: 72 Post(s)	Fan mounting and wiring could be prettier but this is functional, nobody is going to see most of it and a little tech flex on the wires will clean it up.

01-17-2013, 01:37 AM	#42
robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s)	Agreed. Prototype. Will be much cleaner for the production parts. For those kits that mount forward of the engine these fans give about an ” of extra room.

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