The Great Hatch vs Trunk Debate - Page 16 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

speed-wiz · 10-21-2011, 04:45 PM

Leaving out the hatch was a compromise of light weight and rigidity vs. convenience. No doubt the decision was made carefully.

blur · 10-21-2011, 06:09 PM

Bah. Sad news indeed.

I guess this means RE11S instead of Hoosier for me.

RRnold · 10-21-2011, 06:19 PM

Here is another idea. At least I have my truck for all my stuff.

blur · 10-21-2011, 06:20 PM

Link? What is that thing lol

edit: It doesn't look like it comes off easily though...

ichitaka05 · 10-21-2011, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold

Here is another idea. At least I have my truck for all my stuff.

WOW never seen that before

djdnz · 10-21-2011, 06:31 PM

Well that's pretty disappointing

A hatch would have been very convenient, and would at least help the downsides of a 2 door

RRnold · 10-21-2011, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

WOW never seen that before

It's called a Tire Tail and uses a Da'Lan hitch. It seems like its only for specific cars though. Hopefully they'll realize that the FR-S/BRZ trunk is a total bust and make one for this car.

http://www.izoomgraphics.com/index.p...=index&cPath=4

Marrk · 10-21-2011, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryephile

Boo Hiss!

I understand what the practicality-be-damned people are saying. Having a little tiny trunk opening is good for rigidity and lower weight, but now that Toyota/Subaru have chosen to throw practicality out the window, they're going to pull a miracle out the hat in terms of rear-seat ingress to fit a set of tires in there.

If the car doesn't have a huge aperture when the rear seats are folded down, I'm afraid the car might be too impractical.

Practical = 4 tires in the rear seat/trunk area.

Light weight and rigidity in place of a hatchback: For me, that's a meaningful trade-off.

Weight and rigidity are performance issues.

A hatchback is a convenience issue.

(No disrespect to you Hatchbackers, of course. :happy0180: )

cyde01 · 10-22-2011, 04:00 AM

LOL at the tire hitch, but it looks like it will be a good investment for this car unfortunately. Couldn't be more disappointed that this car looks like its gonna be everything I ever wanted in a car minus the liftback. I want a hatch so bad I might even consider having a shop custom fabricate a hatch on this thing, but that would be $$$

Levi · 10-22-2011, 05:57 AM

I am very happy it is not a hatchback but a coupé. Possiblity of easily putting carbon fiber roof, trunk and lexan rear window. Also I don't see the need of having to cary spare tires with. I'm anyway going to run semi-slicks on daily basis. Now I am south of Rome, and there is no snow here. If I go back to France or Germany, I am going to use my 147 with winter tires. But FT-86/BRZ come in march, so there is plenty of time to have fun with the car in spring and summer.

blur · 10-22-2011, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi

I am very happy it is not a hatchback but a coupé. Possiblity of easily putting carbon fiber roof, trunk and lexan rear window. Also I don't see the need of having to cary spare tires with. I'm anyway going to run semi-slicks on daily basis. Now I am south of Rome, and there is no snow here. If I go back to France or Germany, I am going to use my 147 with winter tires. But FT-86/BRZ come in march, so there is plenty of time to have fun with the car in spring and summer.

You sir, are insane.

RRnold · 10-22-2011, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01

LOL at the tire hitch, but it looks like it will be a good investment for this car unfortunately. Couldn't be more disappointed that this car looks like its gonna be everything I ever wanted in a car minus the liftback. I want a hatch so bad I might even consider having a shop custom fabricate a hatch on this thing, but that would be $$$

Other than using a trailer, have a buddy follow you, renting/owning a truck or dropping it off at the track the day before, that seems like like a good alternative.

If the weight is correct, 2800 lbs and it's a trunk. I definitely see that as a potential bust.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blur

You sir, are insane.

His $ I guess! I guess he doesn't care about heat cycles.

tranzformer · 10-22-2011, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold

His $ I guess! I guess he doesn't care about heat cycles.

dominican · 10-22-2011, 11:48 PM

The fact that this doesn't have a hatch is very disappointing to me. I was planning on having this as my only car for the next 10+ years. This makes having a 2 door car a much more difficult decision for me, but I will reserve final judgement until the car is officially released.

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Toyota/Scion with a Trunk	29	19.86%
Toyota/Scion with a Hatch	79	54.11%
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Subaru with a Hatch	29	19.86%
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10-21-2011, 04:45 PM	#211
speed-wiz Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: MR2 Location: Atlanta Posts: 143 Thanks: 11 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Leaving out the hatch was a compromise of light weight and rigidity vs. convenience. No doubt the decision was made carefully. __________________ Speed-Wiz

10-21-2011, 06:09 PM	#212
blur ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: E36 5.7 V8 Location: Bronx, NYC Posts: 1,573 Thanks: 194 Thanked 198 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bah. Sad news indeed. I guess this means RE11S instead of Hoosier for me. __________________ I wish I was cool enough to have an FR-S

10-21-2011, 06:19 PM	#213
RRnold 2 wheel member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: JZA80, 997.1, Taco Location: SoCal->NorCal Posts: 4,330 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 938 Times in 480 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here is another idea. At least I have my truck for all my stuff. __________________

10-21-2011, 06:20 PM	#214
blur ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: E36 5.7 V8 Location: Bronx, NYC Posts: 1,573 Thanks: 194 Thanked 198 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Link? What is that thing lol edit: It doesn't look like it comes off easily though... __________________ I wish I was cool enough to have an FR-S

10-21-2011, 06:31 PM	#216
djdnz 1337 Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2013 BRZ WRB S/C Location: San Jose, CA / Waterloo, ON Posts: 1,134 Thanks: 776 Thanked 482 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Well that's pretty disappointing A hatch would have been very convenient, and would at least help the downsides of a 2 door

10-22-2011, 04:00 AM	#219
cyde01 ft86club resident b-boy Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Yamaha R3, moonslate 2018 GT Black Location: LA Area So Cal Posts: 1,214 Thanks: 142 Thanked 208 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	LOL at the tire hitch, but it looks like it will be a good investment for this car unfortunately. Couldn't be more disappointed that this car looks like its gonna be everything I ever wanted in a car minus the liftback. I want a hatch so bad I might even consider having a shop custom fabricate a hatch on this thing, but that would be $$$

10-22-2011, 05:57 AM	#220
Levi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Germany Posts: 1,202 Thanks: 134 Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am very happy it is not a hatchback but a coupé. Possiblity of easily putting carbon fiber roof, trunk and lexan rear window. Also I don't see the need of having to cary spare tires with. I'm anyway going to run semi-slicks on daily basis. Now I am south of Rome, and there is no snow here. If I go back to France or Germany, I am going to use my 147 with winter tires. But FT-86/BRZ come in march, so there is plenty of time to have fun with the car in spring and summer.

10-22-2011, 11:48 PM	#224
dominican Lude Dude Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: 1998 Honda Prelude Location: New York Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The fact that this doesn't have a hatch is very disappointing to me. I was planning on having this as my only car for the next 10+ years. This makes having a 2 door car a much more difficult decision for me, but I will reserve final judgement until the car is officially released.

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