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Old 01-09-2013, 10:59 AM   #827
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It's available to purchase, has been since end of november. However, those are all pre-order purchases. Shipping has not started yet, which is why there are no Dyno's from the company yet. A while back it was stated that they would release all of the pertinent information when shipping was to commence.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:45 AM   #828
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Supercharger kits will not be shipping till mid-late 1st quarter. The final dealer network program has not been finalized for the SC kits. More detailed information will be posted via Innovate later this month or early next month.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:55 AM   #829
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Thanks, now I at least have a target to wait for.
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I see one on this site that has it.
http://www.fastscions.com/scion-fr-s...kits-2013.aspx
Just like to point out that this website says the stage 2 kit will come with a front mount intercooler. That's not correct, it will use laminova intercoolers and have a front mounted air/water cooler.

I guess it's just a technicality, but trying to make sure people don't get confused when they don't see a giant FMIC on the final product.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:33 PM   #831
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Supercharger kits will not be shipping till mid-late 1st quarter. The final dealer network program has not been finalized for the SC kits. More detailed information will be posted via Innovate later this month or early next month.
what do you mean by "dealer network"? retailers?
or Scion/Subaru dealers?
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:49 PM   #832
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Hope you don't mind me posting this here and once again understand that this is Australian info so is not directly applicable.

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/spor...rcharged-34393

Info on the bullet/sprintex kit.


Info for non Australians. The recommended fuel in the article is PULP. Which = 98 Octane. The price in Australian dollars includes a tax (GST) that is 10%.



Aussie designed and built supercharger to transform Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ boxer twins
An Australian company has defeated Toyota and Subaru in the race to develop a forced-induction version of the smash-hit 86 and BRZ sportscars.

Both car-makers continue to deny they will produce a higher-performance version of either affordable rear-drive boxer coupe but speculation is rife that Subaru is developing an ‘STI’ version of the BRZ fitted with a supercharged flat four-cylinder engine.

V8-powered Toyota 86s have already been created by drifting enthusiasts in Japan, but an affordable Australian-made aftermarket supercharger kit that increases power output by more than 50 per cent is now in production and will soon become available globally.

Gold Coast-based Bullet Cars has been supercharging vehicles of all descriptions for more than a decade and gained notoriety back in the 2000s for its Bullet Roadster, which was based on the Mazda MX-5, powered by a supercharged Toyota V8 and went as if fired from a sniper’s rifle.

Now Bullet has teamed up with West Australia’s Sprintex Superchargers to develop a bolt-on supercharger package for the 2.0-litre boxer engine that drives both the BRZ and 86 coupes.

Boosting peak power from a standard 106kW to 162kW, measured at the rear wheels, the Bullet/Sprintex supercharger increases performance by more than 50 per cent, which should be enough to turn the sweet-handling compact sportcars into serious performance coupes.

The kit includes a Sprintex S5-210 supercharger mounted on a Bullet-designed manifold, plus an internal air/water intercooler using four Laminova cooling tubes inside a billet carrier. This has been designed to provide even airflow distribution to the individual manifold runners.

There is a front-mounted radiator and electric water pump specifically to keep the intercooler fluid cool and supercharger management is via an ECUTEC flash system, with a cable provided to download the supercharger software from a PC. All hardware and plumbing required for the conversion is included in the kit.

The Bullet Cars 86/BRZ supercharger package has been designed to appear like original equipment with factory-look hardware and plumbing and a professional finish.

The accompanying photos of a prototype vehicle show a silicone hose from the original air-filter to the throttle body, but a production-looking moulded plastic version will replace this in the production kit and a polished supercharger housing is also available for a show look.

The supercharged engine resides under the standard 86/BRZ bonnet without any additional bulges or scoops and the only visual give-away that there is something special under the bonnet is the radiator for the intercooler, which can be seen behind the lower grille opening.

Most of the package was developed in-house at Bullet with input from Sprintex, which will manufacture the system in Perth, where it produces a range of superchargers. Bullet retains distribution rights in Australia and New Zealand, while Innovate will market the conversion in the US and talks are underway with companies in Japan and Europe.

There has already been strong interest from international markets and, of the 250 kits being produced by Sprintex in the first production run, 150 are headed Stateside, with the remainder divided between Japan, Australia/NZ and Europe. Another production run will follow if there is strong demand.

The complete intercooled supercharger package is available in Australia at an introductory price of $5690 (including GST) if ordered in January or February.

The 2.0-litre direct-injection 4U-GSE engine that comes standard in the 86 and BRZ is a high-performance engine in its standard guise, making 147kW of power at 7000rpm and 205Nm at 6600rpm.

To achieve this it has a high 12.5:1 compression ratio that requires the use of 98 RON premium unleaded petrol and, for the Bullet supercharged engine, limits boost pressure to just 9psi.

Bullet’s Tom Rabold says this makes the engine very sensitive to fuel quality and owners of any 86 or BRZ should be careful where they buy their PULP, recommending they try to purchase fuel from company–owned service stations’ where possible.

As with any such engine modification, the package will void the 86/BRZ’s new-car factory warranty, but Bullet provides a 12-month/unlimited-kilometre warranty on the supercharger and the kit itself.

When asked about the added stress on the standard driveline, Mr Rabold said Bullet’s development 86 had encountered no mechanical problems during more than three months of road and track testing.

Mr Rabold said engine durability is a factor of individual driving style, but stressed that Bullet’s in-house testing included track days at Queensland’s Norwell at the hands of current Australian drift champion Rob Whyte, who doesn’t spare the car for any reason.

The 86/BRZ twins are a global success, particularly with enthusiasts attracted to the no-frills rear-drive configuration of both affordable two-seat coupes, but have been criticised for their lack of outright engine performance.

Enthusiasts, being enthusiasts, will always want more performance and the Bullet supercharger kit was developed in response to the absence of a turbocharged version of the boxer engine that has powered both models since their launch last June.

Subaru has earned itself plenty of success and a legion of fans over the years with its WRX, STI and other turbo-boxer vehicles, but despite widespread expectations of more powerful 86 and BRZ models both companies have consistently denied the development of a forced-induction version.

The Bullet supercharger kit may still produce a relatively modest power output, but its 50 per cent performance boost should deliver what the well-balanced 86/BRZ chassis – and the affordable sportscar enthusiast – is crying out for.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:42 PM   #833
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So 162Kw is 217whp roughly at 9psi? I dunno, that thing better have a damn nice torque curve being that at the same psi turbo guys are making over 100 more whp.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:51 PM   #834
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So 162Kw is 217whp roughly at 9psi? I dunno, that thing better have a damn nice torque curve being that at the same psi turbo guys are making over 100 more whp.
thats low hp for PSI but it doesn't say they are ruuning 9psi, they said the nature of the engine limits boost to 9psi.
I don't want to run anything more than 5 psi and I want to be at 230whp which is what AVO achieves.
we'll see.

The lack of dyno charts shows that there isn't much good news so far.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:52 PM   #835
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So 162Kw is 217whp roughly at 9psi? I dunno, that thing better have a damn nice torque curve being that at the same psi turbo guys are making over 100 more whp.
If you see what they state as their baseline of 102Kw which is roughly 138whp compared to all of the other baselines theirs is reading really low. 9 psi on this is going to be different than 9 psi on the Vortech , AVO, and all of the other kits available(apples to oranges).
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:56 PM   #836
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260ps?
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260PS is 254HP or thereabouts.
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I've been semi-absent from these boards for a few months as I've had a few things going on with work and home that have distracted me.

This thread is now well over 40 pages long and there are several of the first posts reserved by the OP with no new info there.

Has any more info been released by Innovate in this thread?

Basically trying to determine if I should read it all or not :P
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Basically trying to determine if I should read it all or not :P
No.
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If you see what they state as their baseline of 102Kw which is roughly 138whp compared to all of the other baselines theirs is reading really low. 9 psi on this is going to be different than 9 psi on the Vortech , AVO, and all of the other kits available(apples to oranges).
I agree with you BUT regardless of the mechanical method of adding the PSI to the engine to me its all about the PRESSURE. 5 PSI is less pressure than 9 PSI here and in China so If I'm putting almost double the strain into an engine and achieving fewer numbers, that's 2 negatives right there for me.

I'm just going to wait for some American numbers (gas/octane and comparable dynos) to make a final judgement.
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