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Old 12-01-2012, 02:58 AM   #43
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Not really. As of now it's just a fairly expensive set of coilovers with a fancy name. From what I am seeing so far KW, JRZ, and AST are doing more to develop an actual race setup with guys and shops like Renzo, Matt, Robi, 949Racing, Turn in Concepts, Strano, and Racecomp Engineering.

They are all out doing testing on track.

Ohlins has pictures, and are being promoted by a place called "modbargains," which, while it may not be the case, sounds more like a place that is into selling stuff on the internet than developing parts for motorsports.
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The Ohlins are called the "Road and Track" so they're being pretty straightforward with their intended use. They are awesome dampers inside, just valved and sprung for a street car that sees track time, not hardcore competition use. There are options for that.

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Not really. As of now it's just a fairly expensive set of coilovers with a fancy name. From what I am seeing so far KW, JRZ, and AST are doing more to develop an actual race setup with guys and shops like Renzo, Matt, Robi, 949Racing, Turn in Concepts, Strano, and Racecomp Engineering.

They are all out doing testing on track.

Ohlins has pictures, and are being promoted by a place called "modbargains," which, while it may not be the case, sounds more like a place that is into selling stuff on the internet than developing parts for motorsports.

Ohlins R&T are not a hardcore racing coilover but having had them on my s2k i know they are no joke, if you want a great set of coils that aren't going to ride rough despite pretty stiff spring rates, i don't think of all the shocks i've tried the anything has been better. The price of admission is well worth it IMHO

Penske could have some great offerings for the twins as well, time will tell

R&D is important, i emailed ohlins two weeks after our cars launched and they said they were in the process of starting to take a car apart for shocks, and these are due next year in march IIRC, thats a ton of R&D time to perfect what they are going to offer.

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The Ohlins are called the "Road and Track" so they're being pretty straightforward with their intended use. They are awesome dampers inside, just valved and sprung for a street car that sees track time, not hardcore competition use. There are options for that.

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i gotta agree with you Andrew
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:38 PM   #46
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I would agree the R&T are a great street/track suspension.

They are not a "high-end competition suspension" but that's fine, it will probably work better for most people than one.

The Penske setup I was working with someone on referenced in that thread was a setup for CS autocross class. Penske wasn't developing anything, it was a competition suspension company (Anze Suspension) building a custom suspension based on Penske parts, which lots of other companies do as well. I am no longer working with them and with a different vendor (not using Penske stuff) so I'm not sure if they will continue development or not. The setup was quite a bit more expensive than these Ohlins R&T.
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The only thing that sucks is they won't be offering TTX valving...which for anyone who has ever messed around with coilover valves knows is leaps and bounds easier to work with. You could buy valve/shim stacks that were literally drop in. I had them on my bikes and loved being able to change them out and do my own maintenance. I asked and they said that due to the front strut setup they didn't see a viable way of doing it...also no remote reservoirs kinda sucks too...but beyond that these will be the bees knees.
Were the TTX just on bikes, or automotive too?

Reading through a Race Tech suspension book, they have a diagram of the TTX. Very interesting. Piston is solid, so smaller, and looks like they could get more travel for the same static length because of it. Then the valving and shim stacks are sort of remotely mounted off the top of the body, with compression and rebound dials/clickers integrated in the mounting.

Look like they would be ridiculously expensive for automotive applications, though.
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Were the TTX just on bikes, or automotive too?

Reading through a Race Tech suspension book, they have a diagram of the TTX. Very interesting. Piston is solid, so smaller, and looks like they could get more travel for the same static length because of it. Then the valving and shim stacks are sort of remotely mounted off the top of the body, with compression and rebound dials/clickers integrated in the mounting.

Look like they would be ridiculously expensive for automotive applications, though.
Yeah they could be, but the simplicity of the actual shocks themselves would make the valve bodies the expensive bits. Ive dealt with shim stack piston valving and its not horrible to work on but compared to how easy it is to swap in and out TTX valve assemblies its just archaic tech. Revalving your suspension used to take a day to do, required shock oil and special tools...TTX requires minutes per valve, only a little shock oil if any, and tools that anyone with a toolbox has. I'd easily pay $4-5k on a shock setup like that, if I was tracking my car...for now my KW's are fine
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I have Ohlins on my Aprilia RSV-R. By far the best bike shocks on the market, cant wait to see them on my car as well
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Not really. As of now it's just a fairly expensive set of coilovers with a fancy name. From what I am seeing so far KW, JRZ, and AST are doing more to develop an actual race setup with guys and shops like Renzo, Matt, Robi, 949Racing, Turn in Concepts, Strano, and Racecomp Engineering.

They are all out doing testing on track.

Ohlins has pictures, and are being promoted by a place called "modbargains," which, while it may not be the case, sounds more like a place that is into selling stuff on the internet than developing parts for motorsports.
i'd stick with ksport, race proven not like ohlins. also i hear they are the most comfortable and handle like race car. besides that, they're cheap.
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i'd stick with ksport, race proven not like ohlins. also i hear they are the most comfortable and handle like race car. besides that, they're cheap.
Are you being sarcastic?

Ohlin has been in racing, both automotive and motorcycle, for years. F1, GT, and I think a few other series that I don't follow in Europe.




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LOL obvious troll is obvious.
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