Suspension Tips, for those who want to lower this car.

[Mikepage]

I think i will wait for the TRD spring if this not to much expensive.

I just don't want to not void the warrenty :S

[stockysnail]

I also have the Eibach Pro kit and wondering if it negatively effects handling in any way with the mild almost 1" drop. I noticed it's just a wee bit bouncier, but barely noticeable. I also have Bridgestone RE11 225/40R18 (when it's not winter). Seemed a lot stickier but haven't tracked it yet so maybe the limit of grip would be less predictable with being more grippy.

I also have a question on products that brace the car frame like:
Cusco Front Strut Tower Bar Type OS w/ Master Cylinder Brace
Cusco Rear Strut Tower Bar Type OS
Cusco Power Brace Rear Member
Cusco Front Member Powerbrace
Cusco Front Lower Arm Powerbrace
Cusco Rear Member Side Powerbrace
Cusco Engine Room Powerbrace
Cusco Rear End Bumper Beam Powerbrace

Because if they ruin the handling of the car I don't want them on my wish list anymore. I'm more of a few times a year, love good handling cars than a guy that cares only about looks. The car already looks good. I just would like a little more handling if that's possible while maintaining the daily drivability. My build link has lots of stuff on my wishlist. (link in signature)

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

I also have the Eibach Pro kit and wondering if it negatively effects handling in any way with the mild almost 1" drop. I noticed it's just a wee bit bouncier, but barely noticeable. I also have Bridgestone RE11 225/40R18 (when it's not winter). Seemed a lot stickier but haven't tracked it yet so maybe the limit of grip would be less predictable with being more grippy.

I also have a question on products that brace the car frame like:
Cusco Front Strut Tower Bar Type OS w/ Master Cylinder Brace
Cusco Rear Strut Tower Bar Type OS
Cusco Power Brace Rear Member
Cusco Front Member Powerbrace
Cusco Front Lower Arm Powerbrace
Cusco Rear Member Side Powerbrace
Cusco Engine Room Powerbrace
Cusco Rear End Bumper Beam Powerbrace

Because if they ruin the handling of the car I don't want them on my wish list anymore. I'm more of a few times a year, love good handling cars than a guy that cares only about looks. The car already looks good. I just would like a little more handling if that's possible while maintaining the daily drivability. My build link has lots of stuff on my wishlist. (link in signature)

I would skip all of those braces and get some konis and maybe a front sway bar. And if you don't have the OEM camber bolt, get it.

- Andrew

[Captain Insano]

Great thread!!

I can tell many people in this thread like the RCE springs, but alot of others have asked about review of the Eibach prokit springs. Anybody care to comment on these springs? There is a really good review from DarrenDriven, but just was wondering if anybody in this thread wanted to comment on the Eibach pro kit springs since they fall in almost exact range people recommend for drop springs without ruining handling (advertised at 1", but Darren indicated they only dropped 7/8").

Thread mentioned:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11093

[Surok]

I wonder what the Trd springs will do for us

[ayau]

Originally Posted by vubaru

RCE Yellows with Whiteline camber bolts and rear camber bushings should come in today. I hope the shipping guy doesn't require a signature...I need to be in the office.

Maybe its an excuse to leave early...

let us know about the rear bushing install. everyone says it's a pain in the ass apparently.

[Captain Insano]

Yes, because the PITA rumor for that mod I just went ahead and bought the SPC arms. It was a super tough decision for me though.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by vubaru

It's a huge pain in the ass, 2.5 hrs of labor.

Vendors are telling me that the rear adjustable camber bushings are not up to Whiteline's standards as a product, for some reason. They work OK for me and I got the negative camber I wanted (about -1.)

thanks for your feedback. more and more i think an adjustable lower control arm might be the "better" solution.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by vubaru

If you are serious about suspension work and track/road racing, I would go with the LCA's.

Replacing the bushing in the upper control arm does have some benefits beyond just the camber adjustment. Install does suck.

- Andrew

[Captain Insano]

Can you expand on this? I think this is the second post of yours I've read on how the bushings have benefits over complete arm replacement. Can you elaborate on the "benefits" of the bushings?

[ayau]

Originally Posted by Captain Insano

Can you expand on this? I think this is the second post of yours I've read on how the bushings have benefits over complete arm replacement. Can you elaborate on the "benefits" of the bushings?

i'm interested too.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Captain Insano

Can you expand on this? I think this is the second post of yours I've read on how the bushings have benefits over complete arm replacement. Can you elaborate on the "benefits" of the bushings?

The OEM is a soft squishy bushing in a crucial location for controlling alignment. Minimizing that deflection makes a solid difference in consistency, feel, precision, and confidence in the rear end. On it's own, maybe not a huge difference, but going through some of the bushings in the rear all together makes a very nice change.

It does really suck to install and adjust though.

- Andrew

[Captain Insano]

Oh I think I have been misunderstanding your posts. You were saying the bushings have benefits in general compared to the stock bushings.... I thought you were stating the whiteline bushings had advantages over replacing the OEM control arm with an aftermarket arm which allows for camber adjustment.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Ahhh i see. Yes, ideally you'd run an aftermarket control arm AND replace that bushing. Then use the control arm to adjust camber.

Most won't do that and I understand why. Perhaps someone will release a non-adjustable bushing for that location. Still sucks to install but you don't have to worry about adjusting it and save some money and you're alignment guy won't hate you.

- Andrew