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Old 12-07-2012, 05:07 AM   #57
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If anyone is upset with how mustangs handle http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-h...ck-0512gt.html problem solved
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:13 AM   #58
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If anyone is upset with how mustangs handle http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-h...ck-0512gt.html problem solved
The mustangs I went up against were not stock, I don't know what was on them, but they looked like they had seen a few autox's before. The course that day was tiny and had almost no straights, I didn't even touch 3rd gear.

I agree the course you are on makes a huge difference with Stang vs FRS. Thats why I got the FRS, because I knew all I would be doing is Autocross. If I was drag racing I would have got a 05 gt or something, tracking...a used porsche...rally, a STI
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:44 PM   #59
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Plz find me a mustang that placed in formula D with a stock v6? They all have crateV8's and if we're on the topic look what placed first! A darn toyota how about that! I will never be a ford guy!
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Plz find me a mustang that placed in formula D with a stock v6? They all have crateV8's and if we're on the topic look what placed first! A darn toyota how about that! I will never be a ford guy!
are there scions in formula d with stock 4 cylinders? nobody is asking you to be a ford guy. just dont be ignorant.
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Ignorant how no one said I was going pro I simply want a fucking stocker with loads of potential! Frs/brz/gt86 is that car for me! Found on road dead said no Toyota guy ever
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Sometimes this is so Political. Get your brain cells organized. The Mustang beats the FRS despite being heavier and having less than graceful handling. Period.
Now, if you set up an xross track for cars alittle bigger than go carts, ofcourse the FRS will win.
So What?
Just enjoy the FRS handling, if you bought it to win races, you really did not do your home work.
This car is not a race sports car. Go with a Corvette, Porsche, or yes even the Mustang that you see up and down the block in your neighborhood. Your ego will feel much better.
Potential talk is such BS. Every car has serious potential and can be turbocharged, braked and tuned up... how many of these people will really do that ?
I think all this forum is doing is repeating with new people in da mix the same forum stuff we have been saying for months. Lock all the threads, make them read it and they will find all this banter already exists.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:48 PM   #63
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Ignorant how no one said I was going pro I simply want a fucking stocker with loads of potential! Frs/brz/gt86 is that car for me! Found on road dead said no Toyota guy ever
if you want a stock motor with loads of potential, the frs gets absolutely destroyed by the coyote motors ford puts out let alone just about every engine in the more direct competitors of the frs. also, if there has been any kind of car person that has said found on road dead, its gonna be a ford guy.
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Sometimes this is so Political. Get your brain cells organized. The Mustang beats the FRS despite being heavier and having less than graceful handling. Period.
Now, if you set up an xross track for cars alittle bigger than go carts, ofcourse the FRS will win.
So What?
Just enjoy the FRS handling, if you bought it to win races, you really did not do your home work.
This car is not a race sports car. Go with a Corvette, Porsche, or yes even the Mustang that you see up and down the block in your neighborhood. Your ego will feel much better.
Potential talk is such BS. Every car has serious potential and can be turbocharged, braked and tuned up... how many of these people will really do that ?
I think all this forum is doing is repeating with new people in da mix the same forum stuff we have been saying for months. Lock all the threads, make them read it and they will find all this banter already exists.



You represent the "sane" side of FRS/BRZ owners. It's good to see guys like you on this site.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:42 AM   #65
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Like the above says, really two different classes of cars to be appreciated. Enjoy what you have and don't sweat what the other guys have. You'll be much better off in the long haul. The FRS is a great sports car.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:30 AM   #66
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My boss 302 weighs right at 3600 with fuel and no driver. I get tired of hearing people gripe that mustangs don't handle. With very few mods they are good track cars. Look at any HPDE or drag race and see them lined up. Best bang for your buck period.
I remember a Boss302 driver being blown away at my little stock-powertrain BRZ at the last HPDE I was at. His jaw was hanging. There's a HUGE power discrepancy between the two cars and which performance formula pays better dividends? BRZ

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It all depends on what you want to do with it. I had a little v6 mustang and I never really did much with it but it was a boat load of fun and a good daily car. If I wanted a drag car than a mustang gt would be a great starting point the FR-S wouldn't if I wanted a track day or autoX like I do now I would go for the FR-S. A well modded mustang still makes me look foolish on the track but mine is more fun daily so I don't care.

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Old 12-27-2012, 03:55 PM   #68
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Sometimes this is so Political. Get your brain cells organized. The Mustang beats the FRS despite being heavier and having less than graceful handling. Period.
Now, if you set up an xross track for cars alittle bigger than go carts, ofcourse the FRS will win.
So What?
Just enjoy the FRS handling, if you bought it to win races, you really did not do your home work.
This car is not a race sports car. Go with a Corvette, Porsche, or yes even the Mustang that you see up and down the block in your neighborhood. Your ego will feel much better.
Potential talk is such BS. Every car has serious potential and can be turbocharged, braked and tuned up... how many of these people will really do that ?
I think all this forum is doing is repeating with new people in da mix the same forum stuff we have been saying for months. Lock all the threads, make them read it and they will find all this banter already exists.
I agree with what you said. I find it funny that some people say they didn't buy the car for power talking about you won't be able to use it all on the street. Then turn around praising all the FI kits...
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:00 PM   #69
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I remember a Boss302 driver being blown away at my little stock-powertrain BRZ at the last HPDE I was at. His jaw was hanging. There's a HUGE power discrepancy between the two cars and which performance formula pays better dividends? BRZ
I'm don't want to rain on your parade here but a Boss 302 will annihilate a FRS/BRZ with equal drivers. That guy was either scared or just taking the car out for the first few times. Dollar for dollar you could argue the car is a better deal but that is a very diff conversation. The Boss has better lap times at LS than an Audi R8, older GTR and several other super cars.
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I'm don't want to rain on your parade here but a Boss 302 will annihilate a FRS/BRZ with equal drivers. That guy was either scared or just taking the car out for the first few times. Dollar for dollar you could argue the car is a better deal but that is a very diff conversation. The Boss has better lap times at LS than an Audi R8, older GTR and several other super cars.
I really like the boss but I couldn't talk my wife into one. But a boss and an fr-s are going to be in different categories on any track day or auto cross event so really they will not see competition in that unless they were both so modded they fall under prepared together. But at that rate it's only a shell if a car it once was.

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