Leather?

[suprachica79]

Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63

Again, as long as it's an option I don't care what they offer, but cloth better be standard. I for one hate leather seats.

To disagree with an earlier point, no matter how well you maintain them they do in fact always break down. It's inevitable. And when they do you have fugly factor to add to the many con's of leather seats. One of the most anticipated changes I made to my RX7 were the seats.

You can keep the excitements that are sweaty butts, stinky oil treatments, burn your skin on hot days, freeze your skin on cold days, slide around despite being strapped in, leather seats. lol

When you detail cars as a side job and clean food out of cloth seats, you'll understand why I prefer leather. Also, I just prefer the look and feel and I'm already not thrilled that it's a Scion instead of a Toyota, I want at least a little upscale feel

[serialk11r]

Easy to clean is good I guess, but the shiny smooth sort of leather is kinda uncomfortable IMO. Doesn't breathe, gets hot, freezes your ass off on cold days. It'd be nice if it was textured, fake leather is fine. That way it breathes better and you don't slide around as much. I think one Lexus I sat in had leather like this and it was great

[CyberFormula]

I'm sure leather is great...

but for me, there are too many downsides to leather than compared to cloth.

With leather, since many people wear jeans nowadays, it ends up tearing the thigh bolsters and seat area over time. My sister's G35 was great, and she's anal about taking care of the seat. Now its all wrinkled up on the passenger side, and i'm sure it'll tear if it isn't taken cared of soon.
On top of that, members have already mentioned that it will burn/freeze your butt depending on the weather.

Cloth is harder to clean if it gets dirty. I have a drink stain in one of my seats and it is tough to get out. But other than that, it is a rugged piece of equipment. I can sit on it without worry about destroying the material. I don't doubt in many years down the road, it'll show wear and tear as with any material.

Typically when it is a leather seat, it would come with electronic seat adjustments. Which i think most of us don't really care for.

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63

Again, as long as it's an option I don't care what they offer, but cloth better be standard. I for one hate leather seats.

To disagree with an earlier point, no matter how well you maintain them they do in fact always break down. It's inevitable. And when they do you have fugly factor to add to the many con's of leather seats. One of the most anticipated changes I made to my RX7 were the seats.

You can keep the excitements that are sweaty butts, stinky oil treatments, burn your skin on hot days, freeze your skin on cold days, slide around despite being strapped in, leather seats. lol

That seems a little harsh, but I accept your point. Leather also cracks. You could add that to your list. Or is that what you meant by "break down"?

Cloth seats rip in about a week. They stain. They are harder to clean.

Nothing's perfect, I guess.

[Slide]

Originally Posted by Marrk

That seems a little harsh, but I accept your point. Leather also cracks. You could add that to your list. Or is that what you meant by "break down"?

Cloth seats rip in about a week. They stain. They are harder to clean.

Nothing's perfect, I guess.

Def stain then can't clean them!!!

You have to condition the leather almost weekly but monthly will do to stop them cracking and breaking down... don't park in the sun(yes i know its hard....)

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by Slide

Def stain then can't clean them!!!

You have to condition the leather almost weekly but monthly will do to stop them cracking and breaking down... don't park in the sun(yes i know its hard....)

Weekly sounds a little extreme. But you do have to think about conditioning and, in the case of a convertible, UV protection.

Leather is not that bad. Superchica's points are valid. It's a lovely option to have, it adds class and it speaks to the classic sports cars of the, for example, 1960s, and the Gallardos and Ferraris of today. (DISCLAIMER: I'm going for context here, guys. I am not saying that a $20k Scion is like a Gallardo or a Ferrari. Therefore, please don't kill me.) But, for me, in this application, it adds weight that I don't want.

[Slide]

some1 weight a patch of 10cm x 10cm leather and cloth and tell me the difference please!!!

I would say it hardly adds that much no more then 30KG...If that!!! not like the back seats are that big? and same with the fronts.

[Snaps]

^ It wouldn't add anywhere NEAR 30kg more with everything else being equal. Maybe 4-5kg throughout the whole car? But nowhere near 30kg. Pick up a bag of fabric and a bag of leather.. they don't weigh much different, it's just the bag of leather doesn't quite cover as much...

[Levi]

So I am 100 % taking leather seats if there is such an option. It does not add that much weight, and anyway I'll make the car lose weight in other more important places, rims for example. When the car gets full track-conversion, then the car will be stripped-off of everything, only have Sparco lightweight bucketseats, covered with Alcantara, so as the stearing-wheel.

[Marrk]

Maybe leather doesn't add that much weight. I always thought it did, though.

Maybe we'll get more info on its weight as we learn more about the car.

[Slide]

Opps meant 3kg

[MannyO]

Originally Posted by Andy

Alcantara with Leather bolsters/wear patches pleas!

+1

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5...nteriorhe6.jpg

http://www.dimex-group.com/uploads/p...ntermin_01.jpg

http://autocar.addfinal.com/wp-conte...ng-520x346.jpg

[Slide]

Originally Posted by MannyO

+1

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5...nteriorhe6.jpg

http://www.dimex-group.com/uploads/p...ntermin_01.jpg

http://autocar.addfinal.com/wp-conte...ng-520x346.jpg

Like the 2nd links seats.

Shame the seats won't be like thay due needed to fold for rear seats

[quik1987]

This is about as much leather as I would want