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Subie · 12-19-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by USMC FR-S

Yeah definitely, but it took A LOT of arguing and string pulling to get to where im at right now with scion customer support.. Their supervisor Danny Castro is the one who made all this happen. The other desk jockeys that i had to deal with just gave me the run around and pissed me off.

Sounds like typical Scion (lack of) customer service to me.

USMC FR-S · 12-19-2012, 10:12 PM

yes sand, my car is top priority there right now due to this issue.

MY13FRS · 12-19-2012, 10:32 PM

7k miles with sand in the engine....hm

Xanatos · 12-19-2012, 10:49 PM

Sand in the engine is tough to imagine. Especially if the block/shaft/valves/cylinders/rods are milled to spec after casting anyways.

Asphalt~86 · 12-19-2012, 10:50 PM

Mind posting the last 4 of your VIN?

DaJo · 12-19-2012, 11:18 PM

Haven't we seen something like this related to the poor quality of casting of our engines?... Perhaps this could be the problem leading to the CEL light... and idle dip.

Thread ->http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23726&highlight=casting

cf6mech · 12-19-2012, 11:45 PM

The oil filter might be something to be looked at, split open and analized for the presence of this mystery sand.

Lonewolf · 12-19-2012, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cf6mech

The oil filter might be something to be looked at, split open and analized for the presence of this mystery sand.

Woah, woah, woah, I want to get to the bottom of this too...let's not take the back door to rush to judgment here...

BlaineWasHere · 12-19-2012, 11:49 PM

I'd bet something like this is VERY isolated.

I'm sure there are a few press cars out there with 50K+ miles and many members on this board have more than 15-20K miles like me. If it was a widespread issue by now it would obviously be as publicized as the engine idle chirp.

Accurate Race Shop · 12-19-2012, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

I'd bet something like this is VERY isolated.

I'm sure there are a few press cars out there with 50K+ miles and many members on this board have more than 15-20K miles like me. If it was a widespread issue by now it would obviously be as publicized as the engine idle chirp.

I have to agree with you I think the OP must have had the issue for a while and didn't notice it until it got really bad. It has happened to other cars in the past from what I have read but only a tiny amount and it was found in the oil during a flush because of the same idle dip and low power issues. Mine had low power but it was an ECU issue that I had fixed today at the dealer and it was only occasional.

USMC FR-S · 12-20-2012, 12:27 AM

They did an oil change and found it after when they took the cylinder out. 9205 is the last 4 of my VIN. the CEL came on after i initially noticed the problem and it went to the dealership. i dont just drive my car around if its acting up.. i take more care of it than that.

Grishbok · 12-20-2012, 12:42 AM

you sure you didnt try to port and polish the intake like this guy?

http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=207619

Abridged version if you dont want to read the other forum: ". I was recommended to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasive material to do it like gritty sand. So I got with my friend that tunes Hondas and we decided to try it ourselves. We got a bag of sandblasting sand and hooked up into the intake and started the car. We had to hold the gas so it would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intake so it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port the exhaust manifold.
"

czar07 · 12-20-2012, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grishbok

you sure you didnt try to port and polish the intake like this guy?

http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=207619

Abridged version if you dont want to read the other forum: ". I was recommended to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasive material to do it like gritty sand. So I got with my friend that tunes Hondas and we decided to try it ourselves. We got a bag of sandblasting sand and hooked up into the intake and started the car. We had to hold the gas so it would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intake so it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port the exhaust manifold.
"

What the fuck...

On-topic I wont believe till I see it.

Guff · 12-20-2012, 04:37 AM

Interdasting. Seems kinda far-fetched though...

12-19-2012, 11:18 PM	#20
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BlaineWasHere Grip>Drift Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FRS Location: NorCal Posts: 3,472 Thanks: 782 Thanked 1,749 Times in 918 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s)	I'd bet something like this is VERY isolated. I'm sure there are a few press cars out there with 50K+ miles and many members on this board have more than 15-20K miles like me. If it was a widespread issue by now it would obviously be as publicized as the engine idle chirp. __________________ My FR-S Build Thread!

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Grishbok Volunteer Fire and Rescue Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Ambulance... sideways. Location: No. VA Posts: 546 Thanks: 97 Thanked 350 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	you sure you didnt try to port and polish the intake like this guy? http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=207619 Abridged version if you dont want to read the other forum: ". I was recommended to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasive material to do it like gritty sand. So I got with my friend that tunes Hondas and we decided to try it ourselves. We got a bag of sandblasting sand and hooked up into the intake and started the car. We had to hold the gas so it would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intake so it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port the exhaust manifold. " __________________ It's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow. Last edited by Grishbok; 12-20-2012 at 02:27 AM.

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USMC FR-S Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 25 Thanks: 17 Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	They did an oil change and found it after when they took the cylinder out. 9205 is the last 4 of my VIN. the CEL came on after i initially noticed the problem and it went to the dealership. i dont just drive my car around if its acting up.. i take more care of it than that.

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