AU road rage dashcam vid

[nzer]

Originally Posted by Freeman

Mental note: buy dash cam, and never go to Oz.

Nah, recommend you go. Oz is an awesome place.

And, while you're there only a 3 hour flight to come over and see us in New Zealand - a win for everyone!



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[ianz28]

Originally Posted by gmookher

I dont know, I think if it was me I'd have flipped the script. Thats just my nature in a situation like that.

He'd find himself being chased, rear ended, and be the one fleeing if I didnt immobilize his vehicle first.

I'd be slamming the brakes as he ensued chase, not just him, and let the fun begin. This victim and ran ran ran, when he should have swung it around and messed back with the perp.

Clearly not an alpha male

Just decided on my next mod. Dashcam!

Exactly what I was thinking the entire video. The guy is being chased and attacked. After the instigator caused the first little fender bender and then gave chase the dash cam driver should have started causing some serious damage.

I would do my best to bust the dudes radiator and then head to a police station.

I was also hoping that the victim ran the dude over or did something in retaliation.

[M-17]

Well this brings back memories.

I'm not looking to fight anyone, but you can bet that I'm going to fully defend myself if someone as violent like that that crazy dude came at me.

A dash-cam does seem more favorable if things do ever get as ugly as that display.

[dorifuto]

Aussie must have some kick ass roids! lol

[Spd229]

Originally Posted by nix

Ahh here comes the gun debate again... flip side is that if a guy that crazy was packing it would have been a much shorter video.

Not so much here it comes again; and you're absolutely correct. Had this moron had another means by which to cause the victim harm here it could have come into play.

However, the victim here clearly only had a flight reaction. Granted if comparing weapons here (car vs car) I imagine he would have lost regardless. Luckily it didn't result in any accident that endangered the guy or a bystander, as running through traffic as they were is somewhat foolish even in an emergency and could have easily involved more people.

A few holes in a radiator would surely fix the problem here.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by gmookher

I dont know, I think if it was me I'd have flipped the script. Thats just my nature in a situation like that.

He'd find himself being chased, rear ended, and be the one fleeing if I didnt immobilize his vehicle first.

I'd be slamming the brakes as he ensued chase, not just him, and let the fun begin. This victim and ran ran ran, when he should have swung it around and messed back with the perp.

Clearly not an alpha male

Just decided on my next mod. Dashcam!

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by Spd229

Pretty nifty what a gun would do to curb shit like that. Just sayin'.

so your solution is to give people guns, not invest into planned parenthood and education so that gorilla's such as the one in the video don't grow up to assault random people in their pickup trucks.

crazy people don't just magically snap, it's years of abuse and bad influence that one day overload the mind

promoting gun usage is just a short term solution






on a seperate note, how come i never hear in the news how a "local woman shoots rapist in the face protecting herself"

if half of america (or whatever) is armed, why don't we hear more success stories? EHHHH?

"man carrying assault rifle saves school bus full of kids from angry wolf-pack"

"card carrying Jimmy Jilbeno foils bank robbery by shooting all 4 attacks in the throat"

"local grandmother pumps burglar full of lead, protects her 5 grandchildren"

[Spd229]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

so your solution is to give people guns, not invest into planned parenthood and education so that gorilla's such as the one in the video don't grow up to assault random people in their pickup trucks.

crazy people don't just magically snap, it's years of abuse and bad influence that one day overload the mind

promoting gun usage is just a short term solution






on a seperate note, how come i never hear in the news how a "local woman shoots rapist in the face protecting herself"

if half of america (or whatever) is armed, why don't we hear more success stories? EHHHH?

Actually, heard a funny story of some 75 year old woman shooting some guy trying to rob her. I was pretty proud of the old woman.

Or college student shooting some drunk guy that forced his way into an apartment at 2am, drugs also ended up being involved I believe.

Then there are cities whose crime rates dropped incredibly and have stayed as such since enacting firearms laws providing citizens that ability whereas conversely rates went through the roof in cases where citizens were denied that ability.

I mean really, ask someone if they would rob someone or break into a building if they knew there was a good chance someone was carrying a firearm. Unless they think they're going to massacre everyone anyway, I would imagine the answer is no.

It's media. If it doesn't shock, it doesn't sell. Defense stories rarely make news, such is the way it goes. You can't at all deny that.

There are plenty cases of bad, we all know this. Primarily because we immediately hear about them on the news. Nothing new.

As far as your other variables, I appreciate you dragging in solutions that aren't at all valid for this instance. If the victim can go back in time and prevent this dude's birth or educate him, by all means, please show me the time machine. I also really doubt that's a bulletproof solution anyway as it relies on people, just like any other.

[rice_classic]

I think the "flight" reaction was the right one. Also without ever having previous experience of being in an adrenaline pumping situation like that it's hard to tell how you would react, regardless of how badass you think you might be on the interwebs.

The moment the guy got out of his car (the 2nd time) and jumped on the hood to smash the window would have been a great time to accelerate and pin his body between the two vehicles. But then again, in American the victim would most likely end up being the one going to prison, which is why I think the sole decision of "flight" is the right decision.

Too many stories here in the USA of people defending themselves, their family or their belongings being the ones on trial.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by Spd229

I mean really, ask someone if they would rob someone or break into a building if they knew there was a good chance someone was carrying a firearm. Unless they think they're going to massacre everyone anyway, I would imagine the answer is no.

you are correct, if i assumed that you carried a gun on you then i would not walk up to you on the street and rob you

i would walk up to you from behind when you weren't looking and hit you over the head with a pipe


would i break into your home knowing that you
Might have a shotgun in every room, loaded and ready to go? No I wouldn't

That's why I would wait until you're NOT at home and then go in and snag stuff.


A few months ago a friend of mine told me I could pick up his spare steelies, he was out of town but told me they were in the backyard and I'm free to pick them up. So I drive half way across town to a neighborhood I've never been at, in broad daylight, park on his driveway, put on a pair of leather gloves, walk into his backyard, shuffle the wheels out, load them up, and drive off.

I guarantee you that to anyone looking at me this would have been insanely suspicious. Had I wanted to break into his house it would have taken me HALF the time to run through the rooms and grab whatever valuables I could find.



Your argument is valid, but it assumes a level of stupidity from the assailant that deserves a laugh in the face rather than a bullet. It also assumes that you are carrying 100% of the time.

And if someone does pull the gun on your in the street you have to realize that in their mind they are going for broke, they are crazier than you, and are you willing to risk long term mental problems from shooting someone a foot away or just giving them your wallet?


and lets not forgot about the crazies, that school shooting earlier in the week, what the fuck was that all about. People saying that "if only a teacher carried," so for the off chance that some nutcase goes apeshit the NRA fanatics want every single kindergarten teacher to pack heat?



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[Snoopyalien24]

I need to get me these so I can defend my self from crazies





@Guff

[Spd229]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

you are correct, if i assumed that you carried a gun on you then i would not walk up to you on the street and rob you

i would walk up to you from behind when you weren't looking and hit you over the head with a pipe


would i break into your home knowing that you
Might have a shotgun in every room, loaded and ready to go? No I wouldn't

That's why I would wait until you're NOT at home and then go in and snag stuff.


A few months ago a friend of mine told me I could pick up his spare steelies, he was out of town but told me they were in the backyard and I'm free to pick them up. So I drive half way across town to a neighborhood I've never been at, in broad daylight, park on his driveway, put on a pair of leather gloves, walk into his backyard, shuffle the wheels out, load them up, and drive off.

I guarantee you that to anyone looking at me this would have been insanely suspicious. Had I wanted to break into his house it would have taken me HALF the time to run through the rooms and grab whatever valuables I could find.



Your argument is valid, but it assumes a level of stupidity from the assailant that deserves a laugh in the face rather than a bullet. It also assumes that you are carrying 100% of the time.

And if someone does pull the gun on your in the street you have to realize that in their mind they are going for broke, they are crazier than you, and are you willing to risk long term mental problems from shooting someone a foot away or just giving them your wallet?

Completely correct.

And we could easily go through hypothetical situations all day....which could be fun, but really in the case of random situations. Who knows. Home may look empty but kids are home, kid might be trained to use a gun and even might know gun safety. The world is full of unknown variables as we have both clarified. Or maybe they just hide and call the cops...I bet someone here might have a funny story of doing something to help out a buddy and some neighbor calls in the police lol.

In the case of the victim not being present during the act, again, completely correct. At least during those situations though, no one's life is at risk and insurance would cover the losses I would think.

People that are going for broke are the cases where it is usually better to go out without a confrontation; however, most cases the assailant is rarely prepared to actually go through with the action as they're really trying to prey on fears.

Here there were a number of cases around Georgia Tech a few months ago where students were being held at gun point and robbed. Apparently they caught one victim on a bad day, the victim immediately turned on the assailants and began going off on them. The assailants ran off. Pretty hilarious.

A guy also left his apartment completely unlocked with the door open, the guy even lived in a rough part of town. Oddly enough no one took anything; either a case of honest people staying honest, or the wonder if it were a trap for a thief and fear of jail time or being shot. Who knows.

I do agree with all the crazy people deciding they need to take guns to schools being a bad idea. Just bring in some security or something. Schools and post offices are no gun zones for a reason. Not only that but having that sort of power when already frightened, just raises the likelihood of some accident happening. That isn't something that's needed at this point. Reminds me of how a game called Amnesia really messed with you, made you think you saw things that didn't exist. A weapon is something only meant to be used when a threat is definite....

It's unfortunately like many other solutions to problems though, they can be taken to extremes. I wonder if that's another rule, anything can be taken to extremes. No exceptions.

To Rice_Classic:

That's an awesome solution really. Unless the guy jumps on the hood and clears his legs from the impact area, not to mention the limited speed the guy could get in the 20 feet. Odds are maybe he'd be flung in some direction though.

You're also completely correct about split second decisions. It's like trying to control a car that's gone out of control, if you aren't prepared for it or have a trained reaction; odds are it's going to go poorly. I've made a mistake in that respect myself.

[7thgear]

i always left my impreza unlocked until i sold it

no one stole it

T___________T

insurance: 1 me: 0

[Rayme]

Originally Posted by gmookher

Clearly not an alpha male

What's that comment supposed to mean?

Some people like to fight like you and some don't. The guy got out of the fight without a bruise. Why risk your health fighting a psychotic man..to each their own I guess.