New Supra = Modified FT-86?

[Rainmaker86]

First thread didnt know if any of you guys have heard of this? It sounds pretty cool.

[Ryuu0u]

New supra rumor has been around since before the first ft-hs concept. I called it as soon as toyota stated they are moving in a new direction and wanted to bring back the passion. Been waiting for the FRS for as long as i can remember and if toyota makes it happen at a 35kish price tag i'll be waiting again.

[enc0re]

I doubt it. I'd expect them to platform share with the IS350; same as Nissan does with the 370Z and Infiniti G.

[4agze]

Is it that time again new rumor of a new supra or RX7 and the NSX on that mix

[ichitaka05]

No, no, no, and did I write "No"?

I've been following FT86/FRS for pretty long time and I do love this car... BUT cannot compare Supra w this car. FT86/FRS goal and Supra goal is totally different.

[Streetice]

You know I was talking with a dealer years ago, I made a joke about the supra (no it wasent funny) and he just poped out and said "Well you know there bringing it back in a few years. I go "Really!?" "Yes and its going to be a Hybrid too!"..........

All I wanted to do was beat the guys head in for killing an icon with one word.

Years have past and this is what I hear! oh boy I cant wait for this -_-

[old greg]

Originally Posted by Ryuu0u

New supra rumor has been around since before the first ft-hs concept.

Hell, that rumor has been around since 1999.

[Sea1monkey2]

Originally Posted by Streetice

Years have past and this is what I hear! oh boy I cant wait for this -_-

Originally Posted by old greg

Hell, that rumor has been around since 1999.

Yeah, guys... ichi says no, sorry to burst your bubble

[suprachica79]

The only proper reincarnation of the Supra is an inline-6 turbo. Period. Anything else would ruin the name for me. I would love if they just reproduced the MKIV. Don't change anything, same body, same wonderful 2JZ engine. They could probably reproduce it for a whole lot less money than it cost in 1998. But my requests will fall on deaf ears.

[old greg]

@Suprachica

It wouldn't meet emissions regs, or EU pedestrian safety rules, would get terrible crash-test/safety ratings, and it would play hell with Toyota's corporate average fuel economy. On top of that I highly doubt Toyota still has any of the tooling/molds to reproduce any of the old parts, that means an investment of tens of millions of dollars.

[ichitaka05]

Yeah, agree w old_greg. Suprachica, how bout V6 with twin turbos? Or even V10 from LFA? iirc that thing is size of V8 w weight of V6 (or other way around).

[suprachica79]

Originally Posted by old greg

@Suprachica

It wouldn't meet emissions regs, or EU pedestrian safety rules, would get terrible crash-test/safety ratings, and it would play hell with Toyota's corporate average fuel economy. On top of that I highly doubt Toyota still has any of the tooling/molds to reproduce any of the old parts, that means an investment of tens of millions of dollars.

I see your point, you make more sense than I do lol. I didn't realize that emissions testing has changed so significantly that it would no longer pass.

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yeah, agree w old_greg. Suprachica, how bout V6 with twin turbos? Or even V10 from LFA? iirc that thing is size of V8 w weight of V6 (or other way around).

Personally, I feel like the 2JZ was the best engine ever built in terms of durability. I think a big reason for its success was the I6 cylinder pattern, that's how it was from its inception and I think if you want to bring back a car that always had an I6, the only form in which to bring it back would be an I6. Just my own personal belief. And as for the LFA engine, there's no way a new Supra could be even remotely affordable for the public with a V10, the engine alone I think would just be too expensive. But you guys know alot more about engines than this broad does

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by suprachica79

Personally, I feel like the 2JZ was the best engine ever built in terms of durability. I think a big reason for its success was the I6 cylinder pattern, that's how it was from its inception and I think if you want to bring back a car that always had an I6, the only form in which to bring it back would be an I6. Just my own personal belief. And as for the LFA engine, there's no way a new Supra could be even remotely affordable for the public with a V10, the engine alone I think would just be too expensive. But you guys know alot more about engines than this broad does

lol I'm no I6 engine expert here. I'm more of Subaru/boxer engine-holic

I see your point of I6 car should come back as I6... but look at Nissan. Fairlady & GT-R both now have V6 engine. They both started out as I6. Lancia Stratos used to have V6, but remake one gonna have V8. FT86/FRS can be said the same thing. It's somewhat of successor of AE86, so it should have I4 engine, but instead, they're going w H4 boxer engine. M3 used to have I4 turbo, but now V8. List just goes on and on...

It's just a part of a cycle. By any means, I'm not saying I6 sucks. I love I6 & Supra. Just current I6 technology vs V6 technology, V6 is lighter, shorter, & a bit more economical.

What if Toyota use few technology that they used on LFA into new V6/8 and made put two extra snails on it & full aluminum chassis? That would make sweet next gen Supra...

But I prefer to see Toyota to improve Subie's H6 engine and pop 2 snails on it and make very low CoG next gen Supra... but that's just my dream

[suprachica79]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

lol I'm no I6 engine expert here. I'm more of Subaru/boxer engine-holic

I see your point of I6 car should come back as I6... but look at Nissan. Fairlady & GT-R both now have V6 engine. They both started out as I6. Lancia Stratos used to have V6, but remake one gonna have V8. FT86/FRS can be said the same thing. It's somewhat of successor of AE86, so it should have I4 engine, but instead, they're going w H4 boxer engine. M3 used to have I4 turbo, but now V8. List just goes on and on...

It's just a part of a cycle. By any means, I'm not saying I6 sucks. I love I6 & Supra. Just current I6 technology vs V6 technology, V6 is lighter, shorter, & a bit more economical.

What if Toyota use few technology that they used on LFA into new V6/8 and made put two extra snails on it & full aluminum chassis? That would make sweet next gen Supra...

But I prefer to see Toyota to improve Subie's H6 engine and pop 2 snails on it and make very low CoG next gen Supra... but that's just my dream

I hear you on the comparisons, and if they kept it twin turbo I'd be dually happy. Also, think about the time frames for those cars. The supra was an I6 for what, 20+ years and 4 generations? As for subaru, I can't stand them, I think their recent build quality is crap, and when I first heard this car was a hybrid between subaru and toyota, I was immediately turned off. But, it's still alot of toyota tech which is why I am still interested and ultimately would like this to be my next car. As for a Supra, I want that to be completely Toyota 100%.

The FR-S is somewhat of a throwback to the AE86, but its not a direct successor, so I can see the hubrid of 2 companies. But if they bring back the Supra, use that name, I want it all Toyota.